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Jeremy Igo

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9 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Starting to hear excuses for the offense already.

Sorry, there are no excuses.

 

The Panthers have 4 first round picks and two second round picks at offensive skill positions at their disposal. Plenty of fire power to score on the Saints.

Time for a solid 30+ point game. 

The Shula excuse-maker's bodies are ready.

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9 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Really hope to see 30+ this week. Watching the Rams utterly decimate this Niners D is a little deflating.

Yeah, after Week 1 cries of "Niners have one of the best defensive front sevens in the league!" seem kind of silly now.

 

9 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Sad, but true.

Run up the middle into an 8 man box on 1st down. Wildcat with CMC on 2nd and 12.  All streaks play on 3rd and 15. Sack. 4th and 20. Punt.

You forgot the last step: "Dammit Cam, stop holding the ball so long!" or "Dammit Cam, change the damn play!" or "Dammit Cam, (fill in whatever Shula-ass-covering irrational excuse here)!"

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No Excuses is such a dumb thread title to "THIS BOARD"

It is their MO around here, blame, excuses, etc.

2 wins so far, wonderful, but, Shula, Oline and Cam are not playing well period and if we lose Sunday, they will be the prime candidates again.

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13 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

Yeah, after Week 1 cries of "Niners have one of the best defensive front sevens in the league!" seem kind of silly now.

 

You forgot the last step: "Dammit Cam, stop holding the ball so long!" or "Dammit Cam, change the damn play!" or "Dammit Cam, (fill in whatever Shula-ass-covering irrational excuse here)!"

Both are true. Your boy is rusty. No shame in admitting it.

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Really tired of hearing about Cam's shoulder.  Either he is ready to play or he isn't 

if he isn't, that is on the trainers, medical staff  and coaches and GM who did not pull him In Dec and get the surgery done and have a contingency plan if he was not ready, including the drafT.

it seems to me a lot of 'hope and prayer' went into this instead of solid risk plan management

As for Shula. 4 years of this body of work, tells all that is needed, same with Derek Anderson over the last two.

We don't want to think about it, but I believe the window is closing on Newton, two years tops.  He is getting older, slower, hit 2 times more than any other QB, and he has outside interests. Nor does he have a coach that demands, not asks, demands  that he get technically better with his footwork and decision making  there is massive tape on him now and his tendencies

it is a Shame that during his time here, the offensive coaching was abysmal outside of the first year with  Chud

i hope I'm wrong but with NE, Detriot, Philly. And Atlanta looming we will know how the season is going to go by the mid mark

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5 minutes ago, csx said:

Both are true. Your boy is rusty. No shame in admitting it.

Why is he "rusty"?

Because Ron was desperate to win some of those last 4 meaningless games where Cam was playing injured?

Or because the organization thought a torn rotator cuff could be healed with hope and prayer and waited until THE END OF FRIGGING MARCH TO FIX IT?

Or both?

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8 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We signed a LT to a $55M contract and drafted another OT in the 2nd round. That's trying pretty damn hard. I think we signed the wrong veteran OT (should've been Whitworth) but effort was clearly made.

The bottom line is that our OL is going to continually struggle as long as A) Shula wants to draw up plays with limited checkdown options and B) Cam wants to focus on pushing the ball downfield (likely because he's so accustomed to A at this point).

Shula should've been replaced. Gettleman's post-draft presser where he expressed frustration about Shula's "evolution" or rather lack there of told me that Gettleman likely had some conversations with Rivera regarding that position but Ron stuck with his guy. If we aren't playoff bound this year and our offense continues to struggle, Rivera should be shown the door. He made his bed with Shula and he should have to lie in it. If we do go to the playoffs and our offense continues to struggle, the GM (Hurney or otherwise) should put an ultimatum on Ron. There's gonna be a change at OC. If he doesn't want to make it, then there will be a change at HC as well. Sometimes you can't just lead that horse to water, you have to smash his face into it too.

Very good post. I agree 100%

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We'll see Sunday if we have an effective offense or not.  The Saints just play bad defense.  Honestly, we should roll up and down the field easily.  If we don't, then there needs to be a real offensive change.  The OL should dominate, our running game should click, and Cam should have time and options (he needs to be accurate).

The only monkey wrench in things is that this is a divisional NFL game.  Rules can get tossed out of the window there...

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7 hours ago, Hoenheim said:

Brees is probably pissed and fed up with already having 2 strait losses and he's probably going to come out guns blazing. Not saying we'll lose but I bet the defense isn't going to look anywhere near as great. Brees always seems to know how to shred us through the middle of the field . I expect the Saints to at least score 20 ish points , we won't win this game without touchdowns.  

As much as I respect Brees, he should be use to that poo by now. I heard a stat yesterday that since 2014 the saints are 1-11 in the month of September. 

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Take a look at the talent on this offense. Now insert Josh McDaniels, Kyle Shanahan, Todd Haley, etc. at OC. You've got yourself a superbowl favorite. Shula has been the bottleneck of this team for too damn long now. The lengths people go to through to defend Bersin bubble screens, CMC wildcat tosses, deep shots to slow ass Cotchery, two burned timeouts a game, and HB dive goal line plays is ridiculous. Dude is and always has been a horrible OC. We need to be like the Bucs and fire his ass ASAP so we can go win us a superbowl.

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I don’t think Cam is that rusty honestly.  Against SF he had some struggles in the first quarter but looked good to finish.  We didn’t score 40 on SF because we didn’t have to, we didn’t even have to throw in the second half, we just killed the clock.  We did throw, and Cam looked great against Buffalo.  We just couldn’t finish the drives.  Every time we had momentum there would be a sack, or a dropped pass.  But Cam routinely flipped the field position.  Did he overthrow 2-3 passes, absolutely but that’s Cam.  The McCaffrey overthrow was horrible and Cam knows it.  But Shula needs to be better, and it’s scary if Rivera doesn’t see how bad he is.  He’s too aggressive when a conservative play call for a FG is warranted (and Cam ends up getting sacked and taken out of FG range).  He’s too conservative when we should be aggressive like running a damn wildcat play likes it’s 2005.  Or running out of the stupid read option constantly on third and shorts when we have the personal to I-form and pound.  Like is it so hard to run a pro style offense for alittle?  He finally tried to in the 4th quarter against the Bills, but the entire game was so frustrating.  No QB roll outs, no intention of getting Cam outside the pocket and putting the defense on its heels.  The only fake-play action he runs is the stupid reverse with samuel that everyone knows we aren’t handing it too. 

Shula is a huge issue and sadly it’s not going to end anytime soon.  If it takes Rivera going for it to change, I’m actually all for it.

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23 minutes ago, Castavar said:

Take a look at the talent on this offense. Now insert Josh McDaniels, Kyle Shanahan, Todd Haley, etc. at OC. You've got yourself a superbowl favorite. Shula has been the bottleneck of this team for too damn long now. The lengths people go to through to defend Bersin bubble screens, CMC wildcat tosses, deep shots to slow ass Cotchery, two burned timeouts a game, and HB dive goal line plays is ridiculous. Dude is and always has been a horrible OC. We need to be like the Bucs and fire his ass ASAP so we can go win us a superbowl.

Exhibit A is the improvement the Rams have made on offense this year under McVay.

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36 minutes ago, trueblade said:

Exhibit A is the improvement the Rams have made on offense this year under McVay.

Yep. I made that exact point in another thread. Rams offense compared to last year is night and day.

OCs make the offense, not the other way around. Shula's scheme has been long figured out, and he's too damn stubborn to adjust. The best OCs are able to gameplan SPECIFICALLY for certain teams and games, instead of just having a default gameplan. Bills game is a perfect example. Instead of going into that game specifically with a plan to attack their weak secondary, we stick to our default ground and pound gameplan and run CMC right into the strength of their D whether it worked or not.

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1 hour ago, trueblade said:

Exhibit A is the improvement the Rams have made on offense this year under McVay.

Yeah, but we had one of the best offenses in the entire league just two years ago. The Rams haven't had anything close to that since the greatest show on turf days.

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