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3 hours ago, bLACKpANTHER said:

pfft.. Kemba is on par (career numbers) with both of them.. 

Whose would you take of these three players?
A) 20 ppg - 3 ast - 4 reb - 1 stl / .280 3pt %
B) 18.5ppg - 5.5 ast - 4 reb - 1.5 stl / .350 3pt %
C) 14.5ppg - 5.8 ast - 4 reb - 1.4 stl / .360 3pt %

A then C then B.

19.3 ppg - 3 ast - 4 reb - 1 stl / 28.0 3pt % / 44.6 FG% - DeRozan (also worth noting avgs 8+ FT/game over the past 5 years)
14.3ppg - 5.8 ast - 4.1 reb - 1.4 stl / 36.4 3pt % / 42.5 FG% - Lowry
18.4ppg - 5.4 ast - 3.9 reb - 1.4 stl / 35.1 3pt % / 41.2 FG% - Kemba

though I will admit that in a couple years I'd take Kemba over Lowry. regardless the Raptors are a better team than the Hornets and I would take them in a 7 game series between the two.

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3 minutes ago, pantherphan96 said:

A then C then B.

19.3 ppg - 3 ast - 4 reb - 1 stl / 28.0 3pt % / 44.6 FG% - DeRozan (also worth noting avgs 8+ FT/game over the past 5 years)
14.3ppg - 5.8 ast - 4.1 reb - 1.4 stl / 36.4 3pt % / 42.5 FG% - Lowry
18.4ppg - 5.4 ast - 3.9 reb - 1.4 stl / 35.1 3pt % / 41.2 FG% - Kemba

 

are you a Raptor's fan? cus I see no other reason for wanting either of them over Kemba.. like - im trying to put my homer-ism away and analyze freely too.. there might be an argument for DeRozen but in today's NBA - he lack of a 3 ball is the deal breaker for me..

So, You would rather have a SG that doesn't shoot the 3 ball but oh so rarely and very ineffectively..?? or a PG that has the same numbers across the board to Kemba except Lowry has DeRozen playing along side him that hits 45% of his FGs?? Drop DeRozen alongside Kemba and Kemba's assist number shoot up far past Lowry's..

I don't know.. the Raptors have been the poster children for being over hyped and never meeting their potential - especially in the playoffs.. if you want DeRozen or Lowry so bad - you can have them.. I won't put up a fight..

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3 minutes ago, bLACKpANTHER said:

are you a Raptor's fan? cus I see no other reason for wanting either of them over Kemba.. like - im trying to put my homer-ism away and analyze freely too.. there might be an argument for DeRozen but in today's NBA - he lack of a 3 ball is the deal breaker for me..

So, You would rather have a SG that doesn't shoot the 3 ball but oh so rarely and very ineffectively..?? or a PG that has the same numbers across the board to Kemba except Lowry has DeRozen playing along side him that hits 45% of his FGs?? Drop DeRozen alongside Kemba and Kemba's assist number shoot up far past Lowry's..

I don't know.. the Raptors have been the poster children for being over hyped and never meeting their potential - especially in the playoffs.. if you want DeRozen or Lowry so bad - you can have them.. I won't put up a fight..

Celtics fan. I fear the Raptors far more than I do the Hornets.

DeRozan is more of a slasher than a 3pt shooter. Not as typical in todays NBA but Dwyane Wade has a sub 30% career 3pt% and is a future HOF so I wouldnt write him off for lacking a 3 ball. 

Lowry has similar stats to Kemba with a lower usage rate as he isn't the focal point of the Raptors offense (arguably the 3rd option behind DeRozan and Valanciunas). 

Raptors have lost in the Conf Finals and Conf Semifinals against the Cavs the past 2 years. No one can get past Lebron in the East so i wouldn't consider that underperforming.

Right now I would consider the Raptors to be the better team and both DeRozan and Lowry to be better than Kemba. Like I said, as Lowry is 31 and Kemba 27, I would take Kemba looking long-term, but for now there is no one on the Hornets roster better than those 2.

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39 minutes ago, pantherphan96 said:

Celtics fan. I fear the Raptors far more than I do the Hornets.

DeRozan is more of a slasher than a 3pt shooter. Not as typical in todays NBA but Dwyane Wade has a sub 30% career 3pt% and is a future HOF so I wouldnt write him off for lacking a 3 ball. 

Lowry has similar stats to Kemba with a lower usage rate as he isn't the focal point of the Raptors offense (arguably the 3rd option behind DeRozan and Valanciunas). 

Raptors have lost in the Conf Finals and Conf Semifinals against the Cavs the past 2 years. No one can get past Lebron in the East so i wouldn't consider that underperforming.

Right now I would consider the Raptors to be the better team and both DeRozan and Lowry to be better than Kemba. Like I said, as Lowry is 31 and Kemba 27, I would take Kemba looking long-term, but for now there is no one on the Hornets roster better than those 2.

i hear ya..

the Raptors were swept in the first round by the Wiz in '15,  were forced to game 7 in 2 series in '16 before losing to the Cavs, and then swept by Cleveland in '17.. I know what u mean by "LeBron Rules All" in the East and you are right - they have consistently been in the playoffs and made deep runs..

I still would take Kemba because - to me - not one of DR or KL is clear and away the better player.. so i guess my homerism wins out in the end even though I try to hide it..

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Anyone want to make an offer for Bledsoe?  He's great and I'd maybe give up MKG and maybe Zeller for Bledsoe and Chandler.  

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On 10/23/2017 at 5:53 PM, Shocker said:

Anyone want to make an offer for Bledsoe?  He's great and I'd maybe give up MKG and maybe Zeller for Bledsoe and Chandler.  

Chandler is in his career twilight.. do not want
Zeller is our only defensive Big behind Dwight.. we need him badly right now.

I think a package of MKG/Bacon could get us Bledsoe.. but I want to see what the kid can really do before cashing in on him..

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On 2017-10-18 at 8:30 AM, bLACKpANTHER said:

now that Hayward went down for BOS - What are your Eastern Conf. predictions??

1- CLE
2- WAS
3- MIL
4- BOS
5- CHA
6- TOR
7- MIA
8- DET
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9- PHI

 

On 2017-10-18 at 2:47 PM, *FreeFua* said:

No way does Charlotte finish ahead of Toronto. Barring injury to one of Toronto’s 3 

The hornets are who I thought they were 

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Our schedule gets a lot easier after December - just sayin...

but i think we move Batum and MCW at the deadline, regardless..

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2 minutes ago, bLACKpANTHER said:

Our schedule gets a lot easier after December - just sayin...

but i think we move Batum and MCW at the deadline, regardless..

The Raps always seem to lose in Charlotte, I’m shocked they’re winning right now (only reason I remembered about this).

Ya it would be good for you guys to unload Batum’s contract... assuming someone will take it 

 

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