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During Season, Early Mock Drafts Thread

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In light of our entire secondary getting torched by the likes of Josh McCown yesterday, heres another defensive minded draft : 


Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 27: Ronnie Harrison, SS, Alabama (B)
Round 2 Pick 27: Sam Hubbard, DE, Ohio State (A+)
Round 3 Pick 18: Quenton Meeks, CB, Stanford (A)
Round 3 Pick 27: Anthony Miller, WR, Memphis (A+)
Round 5 Pick 27: David Bright, OT, Stanford (B+)
Round 6 Pick 27: Jerry Tillery, DT, Notre Dame (A)
Round 7 Pick 7: Tony Adams, OG, North Carolina State (B)
Round 7 Pick 27: DaeSean Hamilton, WR, Penn State (B+)

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Round 2 Pick 3 (NYG): Courtland Sutton, WR, Southern Methodist (A-)
Round 2 Pick 27: Dante Pettis, WR, Washington (A)
Round 3 Pick 3 (NYG): Duke Ejiofor, DE, Wake Forest (A-)
Round 3 Pick 18: Quenton Meeks, CB, Stanford (A)
Round 3 Pick 27: Troy Fumagalli, TE, Wisconsin (B-)
Round 5 Pick 27: Tre Flowers, SS, Oklahoma State (A)
Round 6 Pick 13 (WASH): Bo Scarbrough, RB, Alabama (A+)

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We've seen that we can have a top offense with the guys we have.  Cam won MVP with Jags.  We will still have Olsen, Funchess is really improving, and if Samuels comes back healthy we have a solid core....oh and we have this McCaffrey kid thats solid catching the ball.

The OL is looking better and better every week and dont think we should waste a high pick on one.

Our DBs are our biggest weak point.  Worley isnt a starter in this league, and Bradberry is solid but starting to loom more and more like a solid #2 guy.  He is great in coverage but has zero ballskills or instincts. 

And that the biggest difference maker between now and 2015.  We had a ball hawk and the other dbs created among the top of the league in TOs giving this offense plenty of great field position.  Now we are at the bottom of the league in DB caused TO's, while we are helping the team by holding teams to few points.  We are not giving the offense any help by getting those TOs and great field position for the offense.

 

 

24: R1P24
 
S RONNIE HARRISON
ALABAMA
42: R2P10
 
CB JOSH JACKSON
IOWA
82: R3P18
 
EDGE CLELIN FERRELL
CLEMSON
149: R5P11
 
WR DANTE PETTIS
WASHINGTON
169: R5P31
 
CB MARK FIELDS
CLEMSON
 
 
TRADES
TRADE PARTNER:
MIAMI DOLPHINS
SENT:
  • ROUND: 2 PICK: 24
  • ROUND: 3 PICK: 24
RECEIVED:
  • ROUND: 2 PICK: 10
TRADE PARTNER:
CINCINNATI BENGALS
SENT:
  • ROUND: 5 PICK: 24
  • ROUND: 7 PICK: 24
RECEIVED:
  • ROUND: 5 PICK: 11
TRADE PARTNER:
PITTSBURGH STEELERS
SENT:
  • ROUND: 6 PICK: 24
  • ROUND: 7 PICK: 15
RECEIVED:
  • ROUND: 5 PICK: 31
 
 
 
Harrison is that ultimate weapon for this blitz happy D
Jackson is that big Ball Hawk that we've really missed since Norman
 
 

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This is the type of draft that you trade up in due to lack of next level talent. 

I’m not saying piss away the following years picks but we have 2 3’s that we could use to move up.

So with that said, I REALLY want to pair Funchess with...

Calvin Ridley.

Ridley runs some dirty routes and corners HAVE to respect his speed. Ridley creates a ton of separation and can stop on a dime. 

He’s the perfect compliment to Funchess. He’s a legit deep threat that has the ability to run any route. There’s not a ton of those types of guys out there.

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Newest Mock...gotta fix the OL...

 

24: R1P24

OT CONNOR WILLIAMS
TEXAS

56: R2P24
C MASON COLE
MICHIGAN

82: R3P18
EDGE JAYLON FERGUSON
LOUISIANA TECH

88: R3P24
S DESHON ELLIOTT
TEXAS

162: R5P24
WR AUDEN TATE
FLORIDA STATE

203: R6P24
RB SONY MICHEL
GEORGIA

237: R7P15
WR D.J. CHARK
LSU

246: R7P24
WR HUNTER RENFROW
CLEMSON

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24: R1P24
 
S RONNIE HARRISON
ALABAMA
46: R2P14
 
CB JOSH JACKSON
IOWA
82: R3P18
 
EDGE PORTER GUSTIN
USC
149: R5P11
 
WR DANTE PETTIS
WASHINGTON
203: R6P24
 
TE JEB BLAZEVICH
GEORGIA
TEAM DRAFT ASSESMENT
S 
RONNIE HARRISON
ALABAMA
OT NONE DRAFTED
EDGE 
PORTER GUSTIN
USC
G NONE DRAFTED
WR 
DANTE PETTIS
WASHINGTON
QB NONE DRAFTED
TE 
JEB BLAZEVICH
GEORGIA
CB 
JOSH JACKSON
IOWA
DL NONE DRAFTED
TRADES
TRADE PARTNER:
CINCINNATI BENGALS
SENT:
  • ROUND: 5 PICK: 24
  • ROUND: 7 PICK: 15
RECEIVED:
  • ROUND: 5 PICK: 11
TRADE PARTNER:
OAKLAND RAIDERS
SENT:
  • ROUND: 2 PICK: 24
  • ROUND: 3 PICK: 24
RECEIVED:
  • ROUND: 2 PICK: 14
Enforcer Safety
Ballhawk Corner
Freak DE
Solid WR
Good Block TE/local kid

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24: R1P24
 
S RONNIE HARRISON
ALABAMA
44: R2P12
 
CB JOSH JACKSON
IOWA
91: R3P27
 
EDGE PORTER GUSTIN
USC
114: R4P12
 
S ARMANI WATTS
TEXAS A&M
152: R5P14
 
WR DANTE PETTIS
WASHINGTON
 
TRADES
TRADE PARTNER:
CHICAGO BEARS
SENT:
  • ROUND: 4 PICK: 27
  • ROUND: 6 PICK: 24
  • ROUND: 7 PICK: 15
RECEIVED:
  • ROUND: 4 PICK: 12
TRADE PARTNER:
ARIZONA CARDINALS
SENT:
  • ROUND: 2 PICK: 24
  • ROUND: 3 PICK: 24
RECEIVED:
  • ROUND: 2 PICK: 12
TRADE PARTNER:
TENNESSEE TITANS
SENT:
  • ROUND: 3 PICK: 18
RECEIVED:
  • ROUND: 3 PICK: 27
  • ROUND: 4 PICK: 27
TRADE PARTNER:
SEATTLE SEAHAWKS
SENT:
  • ROUND: 5 PICK: 24
  • ROUND: 7 PICK: 24
RECEIVED:
  • ROUND: 5 PICK: 14
CUT
Name Position
Ryan Kalil C
Jonathan Stewart RB
Charles Johnson EDGE
RESTRUCTURED
Name Position
Cam Newton QB
Kawann Short DL
TRANSITION TAGGED
Name Position
FRANCHISE TAGGED
Name Position
SIGNED
Name Position
Andrew Norwell G
Jonathan Stewart RB
Star Lotulelei DL
Julius Peppers EDGE
Donte Moncrief WR
Aaron Lynch EDGE
Jimmy Graham TE
 
 
 
Your new Safety Duo
 

 

 

 

 

Your new #1 Ball Hawking CB letting Bradberry move to #2

 

 

Your Freak DE prospect

 

Your WR added for competition and depth

 

 

Signed 

Jimmy Graham (yeah yeah) but 2 TE sets with him and Olsen are pretty unstoppable.  He is Hungry to beat up on the team that traded him, the saints.

Donte Moncreif- under rated athletic WR who alot of us wanted to draft.

Resigned - Norwell for 4 years 6mil a year

Star for 4 years 9 mil a year.

Pep (wouldnt let me reaign for under 5mil a year but hes said he will play for minimum to finish here, hes playing at 3.5 now)

 

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Vey defensive draft here. Its looking like the 2018 Free Agents are going to be stacked at WR talent , I don't think we need to get any WR or RBs in this draft and if we do, it'll be low round prospect. Our defense is way too old, we are in dire need of a youth infusion at multiple positions on D.

  • R1P22 : Arden Key, DE, LSU
  • R2P22 : Clelin Ferrell , DE, Clemson
  • R3P17 : Troy Fumagali , TE, Wisconsin 
  • R3P22: Quinton Meeks, CB, Stanford
  • R5P22: Dominick Sanders, S , Georgia
  • R6P22 : Michael Dieter, C , Wisconsin
  • R7P14: Desean Hamilton , WR, Penn State
  • R7P22 : Trey Marshall, S, Florida State 

We make a suprise move and sign Sammy Watkins in Free Agency to start opposite Funchess. So basically all needs met besides OT. We may be playing Moton alot more at LT if Ryan Kalils performance continues to be sub par. 

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Also did a fun offense draft that would probably never happen considering last season we drafted offense in the top 3 picks. But if we did something simular again we could have an absolutely stacked offense.

  • R1P22 : Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
  • R2P22 : Nick Chubb, RB, Georgia
  • R3P17: Deon Cain, WR, Clemson 
  • R3P22 : Troy Fumagali, TE, Wisconsin 
  • R5P22: Carlton Davis, CB, Auburn 
  • R6P22: Austin Bryant, DE, Clemson 
  • Not even doing the 7th round, lets just say we traded our 7th rounders to move up a bit to snag Bryant in the 6th

We can't forget we have a number of picks from last year who didn't contribute much or at all this season and might contribute quite a bit next season if we're lucky. I think Samuel in particular could be crucial with a entire healthy offseason with Cam and there will be a great competion for the best #2, #3, and #4 WR slots . We might just go with the rookies/2nd years (besides Funchess), and cut Bersin, Byrd and Clay. 

  • Curtis Samuel
  • Taylor Moton
  • Daeshon Hall
  • Corn Elder
  • Alex Armah (so basically fuging everyone from last year besides McCaffrey)

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On 12/7/2017 at 3:15 PM, Pantha-kun said:

Also did a fun offense draft that would probably never happen considering last season we drafted offense in the top 3 picks. But if we did something simular again we could have an absolutely stacked offense.

  • R1P22 : Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
  • R2P22 : Nick Chubb, RB, Georgia
  • R3P17: Deon Cain, WR, Clemson 
  • R3P22 : Troy Fumagali, TE, Wisconsin 
  • R5P22: Carlton Davis, CB, Auburn 
  • R6P22: Austin Bryant, DE, Clemson 
  • Not even doing the 7th round, lets just say we traded our 7th rounders to move up a bit to snag Bryant in the 6th

We can't forget we have a number of picks from last year who didn't contribute much or at all this season and might contribute quite a bit next season if we're lucky. I think Samuel in particular could be crucial with a entire healthy offseason with Cam and there will be a great competion for the best #2, #3, and #4 WR slots . We might just go with the rookies/2nd years (besides Funchess), and cut Bersin, Byrd and Clay. 

  • Curtis Samuel
  • Taylor Moton
  • Daeshon Hall
  • Corn Elder
  • Alex Armah (so basically fuging everyone from last year besides McCaffrey)

Good work man.  All those weapons would be nice if we can find an OT in FA.  

 

22: R1P22
WR CALVIN RIDLEY
ALABAMA
54: R2P22
TE TROY FUMAGALLI
WISCONSIN
81: R3P17
S JORDAN WHITEHEAD
PITTSBURGH
86: R3P22
OT CONNOR WILLIAMS
TEXAS
160: R5P22
CB TONY BROWN
ALABAMA
201: R6P22
LB T.J. EDWARDS
WISCONSIN
236: R7P14
WR STEVE ISHMAEL
SYRACUSE
244: R7P22
TE DALLAS GOEDERT
S DAKOTA ST

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LOL looks like Fumagalli is this year's draft huddle darling like Fournette was last draft, even tho he's going in the mid rounds somewhere most likely. And him missing a finger is gonna make him a later pick then you might think I'm guessing. 

Round 1 Pick 26: Ronnie Harrison, SS, Alabama (B)
Round 2 Pick 26: Nick Chubb, RB, Georgia (A)
Round 3 Pick 19: Anthony Miller, WR, Memphis (A+)
Round 3 Pick 30 (PITT): Troy Fumagalli, TE, Wisconsin (B)
Round 5 Pick 3 (PITT): Chad Thomas, DE, Miami (FL) (A)
Round 5 Pick 26: Godwin Igwebuike, FS, Northwestern (B)
Round 6 Pick 26: Steve Ishmael, WR, Syracuse (A-)
Round 7 Pick 14: Iman Marshall, CB, Southern California (A+)
Round 7 Pick 26: Christian LaCouture, DT, LSU (A-)
 

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I really woundlnt mind snagging a WR and a TE in the early rounds if we go mostly defense with the rest of our picks 

Right now its looking lke there could be an early run on defense and a bunch of the WR could be pushed down the board. But if we make a deep playoff run they are likely all gone by the time week pick 

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9 hours ago, Hoenheim said:

I really woundlnt mind snagging a WR and a TE in the early rounds if we go mostly defense with the rest of our picks 

Right now its looking lke there could be an early run on defense and a bunch of the WR could be pushed down the board. But if we make a deep playoff run they are likely all gone by the time week pick 

Im still stacking on doubling up on safety and grabbing a CB

 

Cam has proven he can work with average weapons (see 2015).  Problem is our DBs still need as much work if not more than the WRs.

Funchess is better than what the huddle likes to think and has really started to show some promose this year in his first season getting major pt.he's still young too, only 6 months older than Calvin Ridley who many here would love us to draft.

Other thing to consider.  This years FA is much stronger on the WR side of the house vs DBs.

2018 FA WRs include: Devante Adams, Pryor, Watkins, Decker, Paul Richardson, Allen Robinson, Landry, Donte Moncrief, John Brown, etc.  Hurney has shown he is not afraid to throw around $$. So once he locks up our own guys that he wants to keep, he will peobably throw $$ that way to one of them.

The TE, I just dont see us grabbing another guy high this year with Olsen and Dickson.  We've had plenty of opportunity especially with this past class that was stacks.  And in FA when Olsen went down.  Just seems Rivera and Shula doesnt have a high priority on our TE2

 

So im still sticking with, if I were the GM

1. Ronnie Harrison

2. Trade up via using one of our 3rds: and grabbing Joshua Jackson

3.  Armani Watts

4. Trade up and grab: Pettis

5. BPA: a pass rusher prefferably with the age of ours.  My favorite later prospect IF he comes out is Porter Gustin

And then throw in my FA prospects

1. Moncrief

2. Aaron Lynch

3. Amukamara

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15 hours ago, ncfan said:

 

IDK man, Besides a couple games or so Dickson barely even been part of the passing game when Gregs been out, and our offense struggled plenty of times in that time period. I'm not sure I can really read the mind of the coaches, but if I were them, its obvious Greg is getting old and we need a viable option to groom behind him as the pass catch TE of the future. And Fumagalli is by far and away the best blocker out of the upcoming class too. I'd snatch him up with the 2nd rounder in a heartbeat, alot of mocks have him going in the 3rd or 4th. 

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Love this draft . We can groom McGlinchey behind Kalil for a season and have him ease into the starting role in his 2nd season. Or if hes good enough he can start right away. Cam needs a franchise LT. Got some direly needed secondary depth that could be groomed into eventual starters. Some late round Dline prospects . Picked up Fumagali in the 5th round is a steal at that point. 

Round 1 Pick 27: Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame (B+)
Round 2 Pick 27: Deon Cain, WR, Clemson (A+)
Round 3 Pick 20: Quenton Meeks, CB, Stanford (A)
Round 3 Pick 27: Kyzir White, SS, West Virginia (A+)
Round 5 Pick 2 (NYG): Troy Fumagalli, TE, Wisconsin (A)
Round 7 Pick 16: Demetrius Cooper, DE, Michigan State (C)
Round 7 Pick 27: Christian LaCouture, DT, LSU (A-)

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