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CarolinaSamurai

DG in retrospect

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Not that we need another thread on this but.....

DG was good in the draft...not great.  But that's not a GM's only job.

 

DG's strengths were cap management, and he understood what Ron needed in football players.  He had an eye for the game, and knew what he was going for...weather that be pro scouting (where I think he did a great job), or augmenting the team through the draft.

Let's don't forget, he also got most of our "core" signed to really well structured contracts...especially Cam.

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16 hours ago, CarolinaSamurai said:

We won't know what this year's crop will be but so far one guys on IR and one is on another team. Two are starters, one is rotation, and one backup. 

Wasting draft picks on guys that get injured? Wasted pick, we coulda got Deshaun Watson or Dalvin Cook instead.

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Hitting on 50 percent of his picks? I’d take that everyday and twice on Sunday’s. Some of y’all have extremely unreal expectations of the draft.

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17 minutes ago, cookinbrak said:

Wasting draft picks on guys that get injured? Wasted pick, we coulda got Deshaun Watson or Dalvin Cook instead.

injury is kind of a freaky thing, yes? one reality is not the necessarily the same no matter where you go.

Take Kieth Richards for example, he's dead in every reality, but ours...

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In my opinion DGs drafts have more or less steadied the ship, maybe a couple bad storms here and there but mostly nothing to cry about either....

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17 hours ago, uncfan888 said:

Another one of these threads? Time to move on from him and Hurney. Oh, And the pick on another team is doing pretty damn good

Just curious what player you talking about ? 

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10 minutes ago, Liberalpanther said:

Just curious what player you talking about ? 

The only draft pick from this year that is playing for another team

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3 hours ago, NYPantherFan said:

Your not going to hit on every draft pick. Some will be starters and some will be quality depth guys. If you can grab 3-4 guys who contribute each draft I consider it a success.

With the exception of his 2016 draft class and probably trading up in 2015 for Funchess, I have no issues with how he drafted.

I do have issues with how he drafted.  20/20 is always hindsight,  but he missed out on some good players by dogmatically sticking to his BPA philosophy. Continuing to load up at positions of strength at the expense of filling holes year after year is not really a solid strategy.  You have to have some flexibility and adaptability.

My thing is that Gettleman thought that his philosophy was the holy grail to a championship,  but there is more than one way to that end. 

 

I think that Gettleman was a shrewd cap manager, a questionable drafter, miserly to the point where sometimes he'd miss the forest for the trees, and interpersonnally challenged as it pertained to his professional relationships. I think that it's safe to say that he wasn't a football god,  but the jury is still out on his prowess at talent acquisition. 

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Who thought he was a draft god? The draft doesn’t work like that, those stats are worthless. The best GMs in the league don’t draft ‘starters’, they draft, find, trade and choose players who fit what they’re trying to do in the scheme and can be utilized best and give contracts according to that and according to their worth and value based on that. NE for example, notice not ever player who contributed to that team then leaves is great somewhere else.

Also, once again, Gettleman’s success here was in the WAY he did things. The players he found and gave limited prove yourself contracts to. Something Hurney rarely if EVER did. Gettle had a mentality when it came to players, a business mentality, a production mentality. That is what the Panthers needed. Long time fans should clearly see and know this. This type of mentality is needed and lacking in this organization when it comes to winning.

I am not even a DG lover and didn’t really care he got canned. My issue is the business side of him, the prove it attitude is what this family friendly business needed...we would never be in cap hell with him. His hiring, and the fact JR hired scouts to find a GM that would mesh well with our FO it terms of finding the middle ground between business and family was the first step in the right direction, see 2015. This is the type of GM JR needs but doesn’t want whether it’s DG or not.

The next GM HAS to appease JR no matter what. The firing of DG, the rehiring Hurney to find the next GM, and  completely disregarding professionals JR himself hired to find a new GM was proof beyond reasonable doubt of anything suggesting the contrary....and that should be a huge issue to any fan wanting to win. It is the definition, to the ‘T’, of a meddling owner.

So before bashing any fan that had an appreciation for DG try and think outside the box of the draft...there is so much more to it, to a GM, than that.

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34 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

The only draft pick from this year that is playing for another team

Screw butker. Gano had been great this year .gettleman wasted a pic on a damn kicker like an idiot 

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32 minutes ago, Liberalpanther said:

Screw butker. Gano had been great this year .gettleman wasted a pic on a damn kicker like an idiot 

You mean the guy that could have been our kicker for the next 10-15 years, and who costs a hell of a lot less than Gano? 

The problem wasn't the wasted pick, it was keeping the wrong guy.

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Just now, Marguide said:

You mean the guy that could have been our kicker for the next 10-15 years, and who costs a hell of a lot less than Gano? 

The problem wasn't the wasted pick, it was keeping the wrong guy.

Doesn't make us any better at the moment so idc 

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23 minutes ago, Marguide said:

You mean the guy that could have been our kicker for the next 10-15 years, and who costs a hell of a lot less than Gano? 

The problem wasn't the wasted pick, it was keeping the wrong guy.

Don't argue with igor

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