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17 hours ago, Paa Langfart said:

I cant disagree with Trumps sentiments. Should have treated them like any other citizen and let them face the music of the Chinese justice system.

 

16 hours ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Trump says plenty of stupid things on a daily basis, so it is a shame to start off this thread with one of the few things he has got right. 

The three entitled sports stars should have been left in China to face the consequences of their actions like any other average American caught committing a crime overseas.

So, both of you say Trump got this right. So are you saying there should be some level of praise involved whenever we do a good deed? 

Let me find out y’all both are only doing what’s right because you want the recognition lol. Be the type that’s on Facebook announcing to the world you just gave a few dollars to a homeless man, and waiting for those likes.

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2 hours ago, AggieLean said:

Entitled? Man, they made a mistake and it’s the presidents job to try and help the citizens of his country. Now, if China would’ve said no and still jailed them, then it is what it is but Trump was doing his job.

Yall just don’t like LaVar, and that’s cool, but LiAngelo and boys thanked Trump. LaVar wasn’t arrested or charged with anything.

"Mistake"?  These three men conspired to enter multiple stores with the intent to steal sunglasses, that is not a "mistake" that is premeditated criminal activity. 

You are also sadly misinformed if you believe it is the president's job to get criminals released from foreign jails.

 In 2010, there were more than 3,500 U.S. citizen arrests overseas, according to the Bureau of Consular Affairs, and State Department officers made more than 9,500 prison visits. 

"Ignorance of the law, does not make you innocent," said attorney Sarah Bahmani of the Bahmani Group. "Americans should be mindful of the fact that they are no longer in the U.S. They should be conscious of their surroundings, be respectful of laws and keep well versed on the State Department's website and advisories." 

While the U.S. government cannot get Americans released from foreign jails, they can insist on immediate access, provide a list of local attorneys, supply information on a country's legal system, offer to contact the individuals family or friends, protest abuse or mistreatment and keep the State Department and other relevant authorities informed.   http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2011/10/10/what-should-know-about-being-detained-abroad.html

And yes these three are entitled. 

They were sent on an all expenses paid trip to China as ambassadors for their university, PAC-12 and our nation. 

Their behavior is reprehensible and criminal. 

They were caught red handed by the Chinese.  Yet US diplomats took the unusual step of intervening on their behalf to get the charges dropped.  As an added bonus these criminals were allowed to stay in their hotel rooms while the conditions of their release were sorted out.

You don't think that was entitled? 

Try and steal some sunglasses in China like these three did and you more than likely won't be seeing the outside of a Chinese prison for ten years or more.  No one outside your immediate family and friends will give a thought to your situation and no US president, Trump or otherwise, will bother to secure your release.

Bottom Line:  These three have every reason to be grateful for our country securing their release.  The comments of the father are the ramblings of an ignorant ingrate and explain a lot about his son's criminal behavior in China.   

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16 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

"Mistake"?  These three men conspired to enter multiple stores with the intent to steal sunglasses, that is not a "mistake" that is premeditated criminal activity. 

You are also sadly misinformed if you believe it is the president's job to get criminals released from foreign jails.

 In 2010, there were more than 3,500 U.S. citizen arrests overseas, according to the Bureau of Consular Affairs, and State Department officers made more than 9,500 prison visits. 

"Ignorance of the law, does not make you innocent," said attorney Sarah Bahmani of the Bahmani Group. "Americans should be mindful of the fact that they are no longer in the U.S. They should be conscious of their surroundings, be respectful of laws and keep well versed on the State Department's website and advisories." 

While the U.S. government cannot get Americans released from foreign jails, they can insist on immediate access, provide a list of local attorneys, supply information on a country's legal system, offer to contact the individuals family or friends, protest abuse or mistreatment and keep the State Department and other relevant authorities informed.   http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2011/10/10/what-should-know-about-being-detained-abroad.html

And yes these three are entitled. 

They were sent on an all expenses paid trip to China as ambassadors for their university, PAC-12 and our nation. 

Their behavior is reprehensible and criminal. 

They were caught red handed by the Chinese.  Yet US diplomats took the unusual step of intervening on their behalf to get the charges dropped.  As an added bonus these criminals were allowed to stay in their hotel rooms while the conditions of their release were sorted out.

You don't think that was entitled? 

Try and steal some sunglasses in China like these three did and you more than likely won't be seeing the outside of a Chinese prison for ten years or more.  No one outside your immediate family and friends will give a thought to your situation and no US president, Trump or otherwise, will bother to secure your release.

Bottom Line:  These three have every reason to be grateful for our country securing their release.  The comments of the father are the ramblings of an ignorant ingrate and explain a lot about his son's criminal behavior in China.   

Again, the boys thanked Trump. If you don’t like LaVar, that’s cool, but LaVar wasn’t arrested. He did nothing wrong. You say Trump did it the right way? What exactly did he do right? 

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@NanuqoftheNorth Be careful who you call ingrate. I’ve heard you defend and use far less descriptive words against Trump than you are when describing LaVar Ball. I get you don’t like him, but that man has done nothing wrong and broke no laws; yet he’s an ingrate. 

Youre looking a little funny in the light

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25 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

"Mistake"?  These three men conspired to enter multiple stores with the intent to steal sunglasses, that is not a "mistake" that is premeditated criminal activity. 

You are also sadly misinformed if you believe it is the president's job to get criminals released from foreign jails.

 In 2010, there were more than 3,500 U.S. citizen arrests overseas, according to the Bureau of Consular Affairs, and State Department officers made more than 9,500 prison visits. 

"Ignorance of the law, does not make you innocent," said attorney Sarah Bahmani of the Bahmani Group. "Americans should be mindful of the fact that they are no longer in the U.S. They should be conscious of their surroundings, be respectful of laws and keep well versed on the State Department's website and advisories." 

While the U.S. government cannot get Americans released from foreign jails, they can insist on immediate access, provide a list of local attorneys, supply information on a country's legal system, offer to contact the individuals family or friends, protest abuse or mistreatment and keep the State Department and other relevant authorities informed.   http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2011/10/10/what-should-know-about-being-detained-abroad.html

And yes these three are entitled. 

They were sent on an all expenses paid trip to China as ambassadors for their university, PAC-12 and our nation. 

Their behavior is reprehensible and criminal. 

They were caught red handed by the Chinese.  Yet US diplomats took the unusual step of intervening on their behalf to get the charges dropped.  As an added bonus these criminals were allowed to stay in their hotel rooms while the conditions of their release were sorted out.

You don't think that was entitled? 

Try and steal some sunglasses in China like these three did and you more than likely won't be seeing the outside of a Chinese prison for ten years or more.  No one outside your immediate family and friends will give a thought to your situation and no US president, Trump or otherwise, will bother to secure your release.

Bottom Line:  These three have every reason to be grateful for our country securing their release.  The comments of the father are the ramblings of an ignorant ingrate and explain a lot about his son's criminal behavior in China.   

Chinese prisons are notorious for abuse of prisoners and lack of access to the legal system and lawyers.

The state department should be doing more to intervene when Americans are caught in the Chinese system.

 

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/08/19/mark-swidan-american-jailed-china-488457.html

https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2014/05/29/314597050/u-s-teacher-i-did-seven-months-of-forced-labor-in-a-chinese-jail

 

 

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1 minute ago, AggieLean said:

Again, the boys thanked Trump. If you don’t like LaVar, that’s cool, but LaVar wasn’t arrested. He did nothing wrong. You say Trump did it the right way? What exactly did he do right? 

The only reason the three petty thieves were released was due to the high profile nature of the UCLA basketball team visit.  They were literally an international embarrassment to our nation.

Trump and our State Department were self serving in their efforts to secure the freedom of these three criminals.

In the short time I've been aware of the father's existence, he has proven himself to be as foolish and ignorant as our president.

Our society would be well served to ignore both these men, since one is president, the best we can hope for is the press will stop covering Mr. Bell.

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23 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

The only reason the three petty thieves were released was due to the high profile nature of the UCLA basketball team visit.  They were literally an international embarrassment to our nation.

Trump and our State Department were self serving in their efforts to secure the freedom of these three criminals.

In the short time I've been aware of the father's existence, he has proven himself to be as foolish and ignorant as our president.

Our society would be well served to ignore both these men, since one is president, the best we can hope for is the press will stop covering Mr. Bell.

pretty much what Steve Kerr said. 

NBA actually has handful of coaches that aren't afraid to call it like it is. 

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4 minutes ago, AggieLean said:

@NanuqoftheNorth Be careful who you call ingrate. I’ve heard you defend and use far less descriptive words against Trump than you are when describing LaVar Ball. I get you don’t like him, but that man has done nothing wrong and broke no laws; yet he’s an ingrate. 

Youre looking a little funny in the light

Bell's son was facing a decade or more in jail, you would think this father would have shown copious amounts of gratitude for his son's release. 

Short of that, at least he should keep his mouth shut like presumably the other parents involved have chosen to do. 

Instead, the father has made a bad situation even worse by attempting to minimize the seriousness of his son's criminal behavior.

 

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15 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Bell's son was facing a decade or more in jail, you would think this father would have shown copious amounts of gratitude for his son's release. 

Short of that, at least he should keep his mouth shut like presumably the other parents involved have chosen to do. 

Instead, the father has made a bad situation even worse by attempting to minimize the seriousness of his son's criminal behavior.

 

You and many others might excuse Trumps behavior, play along with it, and not get upset because he’s a “man child,” but that doesn’t mean the rest of us have to. If Trump didn’t want to face the ire of LaVar Ball, then he shouldn’t have made the tweet he made before LaVar Ball even spoke and made his “who” comments. LaVar is obviously prideful man, and Trump basically goaded him into kissing his ass. Sorry, he’s not going to do that.

Lavar didn’t make the situation worse, as the boys were already free and had expressed their gratitude before he even responded to Trump. Just because you’d choose to keep your mouth shut, doesn’t mean that everyone else will. Maybe you should’ve been suggesting that’s Trump keep his mouth shut and do his good deed without expecting anything in return, like good individuals do. Trump made this worse, not LaVar Ball but you and others give Trump that out because his bar is set low. Forget that.

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56 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Bell's son was facing a decade or more in jail, you would think this father would have shown copious amounts of gratitude for his son's release. 

Short of that, at least he should keep his mouth shut like presumably the other parents involved have chosen to do. 

Instead, the father has made a bad situation even worse by attempting to minimize the seriousness of his son's criminal behavior.

 

Ball actually is suppose to be on CNN today to share his thoughts.   

I do feel there are actually two valid points that can be made.

1.  You need to be thankful for the US Government (which includes Trump) regardless of the reasoning....for saving the rear ends of 3 stupid kids.

2.  I do think there is a fine line of being grateful and still being able to recognize what Trump is choosing to do with this topic......and disagreeing with playing into it.   But I don't think Ball is the type that can walk that fine line.    I don't think there is much to Ball outside of the me me me me showman clown.  He and Trump actually are alike in many ways. 

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All this debacle has done is illustrate that Trump is on the same emotional and intellectual level of a guy who thinks his kid shoplifting is no big deal and can't see how lucky he is that his kid was on the UCLA basketball team, and Trump wanted to accomplish something, anything that would get his ass kissed a bit.

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10 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Youre looking a little funny in the light

Yeah, I realize that.

Calling out ignorant and criminal behavior regardless of its source is unusual these days, in the Tinderbox and in our society in general.

We've become so polarized, so tribal in our thinking, that people are unwilling to condemn criminal activity by "their side" even when the culprits are caught red handed and admit their guilt.  

Some here go so far as to defend ignorant comments like those of Mr. Ball:  

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They try to make a big deal out of nothing sometimes.’ I’m from L.A. I’ve seen a lot worse things happen than a guy taking some glasses.

 

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it is almost like if he talks about Big Baller Brand's Dad and Marshawn Lynch....people overlook....

- his Admin just told votersin Bama to vote for Moore

- more than half of Puerto Rico is without power still

- Kushner, Trump's lawyer, etc all have dates with Mueller this week

- he still hasn't enforced the Russian sanctions

- and there is always the standard stuff of having made zero ground on trade policy, healthcare, etc. 

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