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 The touchback rule is nonsense to meet their purpose. Kickers have the leg to kick it out of the end zone. Kick it from the 35. A kick thru the endzone starts on the 20.  A touchback (caught) starts on the 25.  Give the incentive to the kicking team for not wanting a return to happen.  

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The only reason we still have a kickoff is so teams can onside kick.  With 8 defenders in the box and the kicking  players forced to spread out, that just became highly unlikely.

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They eliminated the onside kick. No blocking in the ten yard zone.

Edit- it says no blocking before the ball is touched or hits the ground in what looks like a 15 yard area. So a kicker than can loft the ball would be gold.

Edited by cookinbrak

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They eliminated the onside kick? 

Well that removes a lot of drama from the end of games where a team has one last chance to come back. 

 

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I'm curious if the changes apply to an onside kick. That would virtually make it impossible to recover with these rules.

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So apparently they are no longer considering a kickoff a live ball? The 4th part of that rule says ball is dead in end zone? Wtf man, this league is getting worse and worse 

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Man, that's a lot of changes to make on a kick-off.  May as well as let the coin-toss winner decide whether to take the ball or go out on defense.  It'll be about as exciting.

Only option I see for end-of-game situations when a team is trying to comeback is to have the option of getting the ball somewhere in the neighborhood of their own 10-20 yard line without having to do a kick-off.  With that much distance to cover in a short period of time, it won't penalize the team that's got to go back on defense so much for not getting the chance to recover an on-side kick. 

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41 minutes ago, Gregg S said:

Only option I see for end-of-game situations when a team is trying to comeback is to have the option of getting the ball somewhere in the neighborhood of their own 10-20 yard line without having to do a kick-off.  With that much distance to cover in a short period of time, it won't penalize the team that's got to go back on defense so much for not getting the chance to recover an on-side kick. 

That is completely fuging ridiculous...

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Thank you.  You didn't need to be so nice about it, though.

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The NFL keeps fuging around with the game just as other football leagues are about to launch. A few years ago I would've said it was a waste of time and money to try to create an alternate league but damn if the NFL isn't trying to create a window of opportunity for potential competitors.

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Just do a punt from the 50. If teams need the ball back, a fake punt will have to go 10 yards in order to retain possession. Receiving team gets the ball back at spot of the ball for a failed fake attempt. Same kickoff rules apply if the punt goes out of bounds.

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Will there still be onside kicks? At this point what other reasoning is there to keep a kickoff? They probably just don't want to get rid of it completely for commercials... 

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Maybe after they ultimately get rid of the kickoff they can still implement a way to retain possession in late game come-back situations.

Maybe you could have all change of possessions be a throw (regular play with all 22 on the field) from whatever yard line and the result of where the ball lands is the spot for the change of possession - no return.

As an alternative, say you complete a 20 yard pass (rather than letting the ball drop on a bomb heave) and you get to maintain possession of the ball.

Maybe even a sack results in the opposing team gaining possession where the sack occurred.

Just some out of the box thinking for the scenario where kicks/punts may be removed.

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