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Anyone else relieved that Tepper has finally taken over?

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14 minutes ago, Mvp2014 said:

its sad we even have to think about that with a billion dollar organization.  

The whole country has to worry about it with the billionaire in Washington. It seems that rich folks like grovelers and yes people since they think that having money makes them the smartest people they know.

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5 hours ago, stbugs said:

I guess I’m not a big believer on the hot seat making people better. I think they’ll play like they want to win if they want to win. If Rivera changes his coaching style then he’s not a good coach to start. It’s like that stupid notion of contract years. Never made a difference when I played fantasy. Some people believed in that, I just won a lot.

Maybe Cam will be looser but it always seemed to me that he was already who he was. Doing more on instagram isn’t going to make him better. Norv being there may, but not Jerry being gone. If he has an MVP year, do you think it’s more because of Jerry leaving or because he got WRs and Norv?

If you are superstitious then Jerry leaving on a sour note and the Panthers finally winning a Super Bowl without him would be a fitting end. That said, I’d think it was more with young guys stepping up and an OC who doesn’t suck. 

Remember when Ron turned into the Riverboat when his job was on the line a while back? It then suddenly sailed away once it was known he was safe. He went from going for it on 4th downs to punting within field goal range.

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1 minute ago, KillerKat said:

Remember when Ron turned into the Riverboat when his job was on the line a while back? It then suddenly sailed away once it was known he was safe. He went from going for it on 4th downs to punting within field goal range.

Being on the hot seat definitely affects performance.

But that said, if you're not good at what you do, being under pressure won't suddenly make you good.

Rivera is capable of being a good coach, but sometimes he isn't.

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8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Being on the hot seat definitely affects performance.

But that said, if you're not good at what you do, being under pressure won't suddenly make you good.

Rivera is capable of being a good coach, but sometimes he isn't.

For Ron, being on the hot seat takes him out of his ultra conservative, do the samething over and over again self. I hate that he has to be on the hot seat to actually coach, but to quote someone whose name escapes me "It is what it is".

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5 hours ago, PantherBrew said:

I feel better about rooting for this team than I did a few months ago. 

But Hurney is still here. 

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5 hours ago, panthers55 said:

That could be great. I hope it is someone with lots of football experience and previous success. Instead of a childhood buddy or a yes man who doesn't think independently or argue for what he wants or needs.

Tepper doesn't strike me as a man who would enjoy having a yes man around. He seemed to imply that he values strong minds and tough conversations. He used the word "partnership" many times in his presser.

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I thought Tepper had an A-level press conference. Definitely off to a great start. Would still very much like it if the team put drapes over the statue or obscured it in some way.

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6 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

I never was freaking out to begin with. 

This has been a smooth transition, as was expected to be. 

I  too expected the transition to be smooth.  However,  it is never good to be in limbo.There is a lot at stake for the future for the team, coaches, fans, and the many people employed by the organization...some of whom I assume have been doing a very good job.

I am glad it is finally done.  Kind of a big sigh of relief when I heard the news yesterday.

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1 hour ago, GRWatcher said:

Tepper doesn't strike me as a man who would enjoy having a yes man around. He seemed to imply that he values strong minds and tough conversations. He used the word "partnership" many times in his presser.

Time will tell. Most folks talk partnership, cooperation and lots of great things in pressers. How it actually plays out could be very different. Most folks found out for example that the public perception of Richardson was very different from reality.  Reports on Tepper also said he has a terrible temper, throws things at employees and cusses like a sailor. All things that belie the partnership cooperative convo. Who going to argue with him when he is having a hissy fit.  Most folks have a perceived self image which is often different from the image other people have of them. Many folks in the hedgefund world of cutthroat finances are dicks, narcissists and ego maniacs. I hope he is the exception to the rule. Color me skeptical but hoping he is everything he claims to be. Why doesn't he have minority partners? Does he wants control and doesn't want to cede any power to others or he just hadn't met the right people he wants to work with.

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3 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

 

 

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4 hours ago, Snake said:

But Hurney is still here. 

Thank goodness. We need someone who actually knows what they are doing and has a plan. Right now we don't have a team president, our owner is brand new and we have new coordinators on both sides of the ball.  Hurney may not be the long term solution but right now he is the guy holding all of this together.

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5 hours ago, KillerKat said:

Remember when Ron turned into the Riverboat when his job was on the line a while back? It then suddenly sailed away once it was known he was safe. He went from going for it on 4th downs to punting within field goal range.

 

5 hours ago, KillerKat said:

Going for it on 4th down.

2017- 11 fourth down attempts 5 made 45%

2016-  17 attempts 11 made  65%

2015- 10 attempts, 6 made 60%

If he is only Riverboat when on the hot seat then why would we attempt a 4th conversion only  11 times in 2017 after a 6-10 year in 2016 when he was on the hot seat but went for it 17 times after our Superbowl year when Ron would supposedly be safe?

The answer has to be there is little correlation between his aggressiveness and being on the hot seat. Another time where the facts go against huddle logic.

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2 hours ago, Sam Mills Fan said:

I thought Tepper had an A-level press conference. Definitely off to a great start. Would still very much like it if the team put drapes over the statue or obscured it in some way.

That is ridiculous. If you don't want to see it don't go in that gate. When did someone's offended sensibilities dictate what everyone else should do. While we found the seamy underbelly of his behavior sleazy and racist, he still did more to help the Panthers over the past 25 years than hurt them. Plus if Tepper pans out there would be a silver lining to his behavior. It forced him out.

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44 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

 

2017- 11 fourth down attempts 5 made 45%

2016-  17 attempts 11 made  65%

2015- 10 attempts, 6 made 60%

If he is only Riverboat when on the hot seat then why would we attempt a 4th conversion only  11 times in 2017 after a 6-10 year in 2016 when he was on the hot seat but went for it 17 times after our Superbowl year when Ron would supposedly be safe?

The answer has to be there is little correlation between his aggressiveness and being on the hot seat. Another time where the facts go against huddle logic.

This is kind of what I was saying. There’s a belief that contract years and hit seats can make people better. It may have an anecdotal effect but it’s usually not based in fact. People remember going for it and a big season in a contract year and ignore the failures/not going for it glossing over the reality of all the data points that it’s not better or worse than regular seasons.

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