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#46 Matt Foley

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Posted 05 November 2009 - 10:02 PM

Graduated from Virginia Tech

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Posted 05 November 2009 - 10:06 PM

Graduated from Virginia Tech


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Posted 05 November 2009 - 11:00 PM

Craziness. I'm so happy he's alive so we can first learn WHY he did it and second, fry his ass

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Posted 05 November 2009 - 11:30 PM

Slowly kill him.

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Posted 05 November 2009 - 11:39 PM

Apparently someone called him a *******.

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 12:13 AM

Im not stupid enough to think that all Muslims are like this, but you would think the Muslim community would be quick to shout "thats not us" when crap like this happens.


Uh which Muslim community are you talking about, because I'm pretty sure the ones who AREN'T like that (which consists of a majority of all Muslims) DO speak out against one of their own doing something like this. But okay mask your racism by prefacing it with a mention of how you're not really ignorant and bigoted.

Edited by SmootsDaddy89, 06 November 2009 - 12:15 AM.


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Posted 06 November 2009 - 12:27 AM

Uh which Muslim community are you talking about, because I'm pretty sure the ones who AREN'T like that (which consists of a majority of all Muslims) DO speak out against one of their own doing something like this. But okay mask your racism by prefacing it with a mention of how you're not really ignorant and bigoted.



Show me the outrage and what you speak of..

I am talking about the main Muslim American population and their respective representing org's.

Its not racism, its the times we live in. unfortunately there is a population of Muslims strapping bombs to their ass, shoes, flying airplanes, throwing grenades, or just shooting down and blowing up Americans.

I dont think i am reaching on the issue.

Its all around us.

And considering that I wear the uniform I might be a little more sensitive to the issue than someone who just watches CNN...

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 12:37 AM

Show me the outrage and what you speak of..

I am talking about the main Muslim American population and their respective representing org's.


Okay.

"The most important message is that we condemn all kinds of hate speech including anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism and that we come out as boldly as possible against violence committed by Muslims in Iraq, in Israel, in Muslim countries like Turkey and Indonesia, and that we do all that we can in this war against terrorism," said Ahmed al-Rahim, a founding member and former chairman of the American Islamic Congress"

Mateen Saddiqui, vice president Islamic Supreme Council of America, said some extremist groups — those he described as organizations dominated by the Wahhabi strain of the faith — have "hijacked the mic. They are the ones who are trying to put out a negative message, to politicize the religion and use it for their political focus, which is often not related to the United States, but to a political cause overseas."


But hey it's much more fun to talk out of your ass.

Its not racism, its the times we live in. unfortunately there is a population of Muslims strapping bombs to their ass, shoes, flying airplanes, throwing grenades, or just shooting down and blowing up Americans.


Yes it is racism. There's also a population of fat rednecks in bedsheets that run around terrorizing anyone who isn't a fat redneck. But I'm pretty sure if there were a thread made about a KKK lynching you wouldn't be on here vaginally bleeding all over the forums about "SURPRISE SURPRISE A CHRISTIAN LYNCHED SOMEONE :rolleyes: NOT SAYING ALL CHRISTIANS ARE LIKE THIS BUT WHY AREN'T CHRISTIAN LEADERS SPEAKING OUT?"

I dont think i am reaching on the issue.


Yes you are.

Its all around us.


No it isn't.

And considering that I wear the uniform I might be a little more sensitive to the issue than someone who just watches CNN...

That doesn't mean you get to speak from complete ignorance and not get called out on it.

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 12:49 AM

Okay.

"The most important message is that we condemn all kinds of hate speech including anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism and that we come out as boldly as possible against violence committed by Muslims in Iraq, in Israel, in Muslim countries like Turkey and Indonesia, and that we do all that we can in this war against terrorism," said Ahmed al-Rahim, a founding member and former chairman of the American Islamic Congress"

Mateen Saddiqui, vice president Islamic Supreme Council of America, said some extremist groups — those he described as organizations dominated by the Wahhabi strain of the faith — have "hijacked the mic. They are the ones who are trying to put out a negative message, to politicize the religion and use it for their political focus, which is often not related to the United States, but to a political cause overseas."


But hey it's much more fun to talk out of your ass.


Yes it is racism. There's also a population of fat rednecks in bedsheets that run around terrorizing anyone who isn't a fat redneck. But I'm pretty sure if there were a thread made about a KKK lynching you wouldn't be on here vaginally bleeding all over the forums about "SURPRISE SURPRISE A CHRISTIAN LYNCHED SOMEONE :rolleyes: NOT SAYING ALL CHRISTIANS ARE LIKE THIS BUT WHY AREN'T CHRISTIAN LEADERS SPEAKING OUT?"



Yes you are.



No it isn't.


That doesn't mean you get to speak from complete ignorance and not get called out on it.



#1 - dont forget your links

#2- your still reaching

#3- I am not from N.C. and just because I am white doesnt mean I am a fat Redneck. way to show your true colors there.

#4- It is all around you, we have hundreds of THOUSANDS of soldiers, CIA, FBI,. BORDER PATROL, NATIONAL GUARD, AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT busting their asses so that you can sleep well at night.

Dont be such an idiot.

And I would be very surprised to find an article about a "Christian" KKK member lynching someone..... Kinda an oxy moron dont you think? Or do you correlate the 2?

But Im the Bigot...

Right.... Im a realist. There are people willing to strap a bomb to their ass and kill you and your family because of where you live.... Or just walk into a building in their own base and kill 11 folks wearing the same uniform they do while wounding 30 others all the time swearing to defend those very folks from terrorist forein AND DOMESTIC...

Ironic or JUST fuging CRAZY MUSLIM TERRORIST... U tell me...

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 01:15 AM

#1 - dont forget your links



Not everything in life is gleaned through articles on the internet. Also fun fact: The AIC was formed IN DIRECT RESPONSE TO September 11th.

Even groups that are considered less than moderate have spoken out against terrorism. Even if they don't believe Osama was behind September 11th loooooool. See: Islamic Society of North America

#2- your still reaching


Yes, I've presented facts while you paint with broad strokes and generalizations about an entire group of people and I'm the one who is reaching.

#3- I am not from N.C. and just because I am white doesnt mean I am a fat Redneck. way to show your true colors there.


whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosh

#4- It is all around you, we have hundreds of THOUSANDS of soldiers, CIA, FBI,. BORDER PATROL, NATIONAL GUARD, AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT busting their asses so that you can sleep well at night.

Dont be such an idiot.


Since the only two nouns you used there were "it" and "us" I had to assume you were talking about Muslim extremists literally being all around us and closing in on us like some sort of CatOfWar paranoid vision.

And I would be very surprised to find an article about a "Christian" KKK member lynching someone..... Kinda an oxy moron dont you think? Or do you correlate the 2?


The Ku Klux Klan generally weren't supported by the Christian community as a whole, but they certainly believed they were doing the work of God, and they were certainly Christians by and large. Go back to high school.

But Im the Bigot...

Right.... Im a realist. There are people willing to strap a bomb to their ass and kill you and your family because of where you live.... Or just walk into a building in their own base and kill 11 folks wearing the same uniform they do while wounding 30 others all the time swearing to defend those very folks from terrorist forein AND DOMESTIC...

Ironic or JUST fugING CRAZY MUSLIM TERRORIST... U tell me...


David Koresh and his followers refused to leave their compound in Waco, Texas. Even after it caught on fire; possibly a fire they themselves started. Because they were CONVINCED he was Christ's second-coming. They were ready to die for him just like the small portion of Muslims who are ready to die for their beliefs. There are crazy nutjobs everywhere. Again, Islam doesn't hold a monopoly on them.

Edited by SmootsDaddy89, 06 November 2009 - 01:18 AM.


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Posted 06 November 2009 - 01:24 AM

Not everything in life is gleaned through articles on the internet. Also fun fact: The AIC was formed IN DIRECT RESPONSE TO September 11th.

Even groups that are considered less than moderate have spoken out against terrorism. Even if they don't believe Osama was behind September 11th loooooool. See: Islamic Society of North America



Yes, I've presented facts while you paint with broad strokes and generalizations about an entire group of people and I'm the one who is reaching.



whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosh



Since the only two nouns you used there were "it" and "us" I had to assume you were talking about Muslim extremists literally being all around us and closing in on us like some sort of CatOfWar paranoid vision.



The Ku Klux Klan generally weren't supported by the Christian community as a whole, but they certainly believed they were doing the work of God, and they were certainly Christians by and large. Go back to high school.



David Koresh and his followers refused to leave their compound in Waco, Texas. Even after it caught on fire; possibly a fire they themselves started. Because they were CONVINCED he was Christ's second-coming. They were ready to die for him just like the small portion of Muslims who are ready to die for their beliefs. There are crazy nutjobs everywhere. Again, Islam doesn't hold a monopoly on them.



So whats your point?

It still doesnt change the fact of whats going on, or the fact that 11 soldiers are dead and 30 others wounded.

We are all aware that "EXTREMIST" are the cause, either be it alone, or organized, but the TRUTH IS that they feel the represent a religion as a whole.

And ALL I SAID was that the main muslim population needs to do the best they can to separate themselves from the actions of those who are leaving a very damaging mark on their religion.

And with what has gone on the last 8 years between muslims and America this is not a surprise.

Edited by AKPantherFan, 06 November 2009 - 01:26 AM.


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Posted 06 November 2009 - 01:28 AM

And you still forgot your links...

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 01:32 AM

Here is a good read for you

The Muslim Brotherhood and Ft. Hood – by Jamie Glazov
Posted by Jamie Glazov on Nov 6th, 2009 and filed under FrontPage. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0. You can leave a response or trackback to this entry

Jamie Glazov is Frontpage Magazine's editor. He holds a Ph.D. in History with a specialty in Russian, U.S. and Canadian foreign policy. He is the author of Canadian Policy Toward Khrushchev’s Soviet Union and is the co-editor (with David Horowitz) of The Hate America Left. He edited and wrote the introduction to David Horowitz’s Left Illusions. His new book is United in Hate: The Left's Romance with Tyranny and Terror. Email him at jglazov@rogers.com.
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Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Dave Gaubatz, the first U.S. civilian (1811) Federal Agent deployed to Iraq in 2003. He is the owner of DG Counter-terrorism Publishing. He is currently conducting a 50 State Counter-terrorism Research Tour (CTRT). He is the co-author (with Paul Sperry) of the new book, Muslim Mafia: Inside the Secret Underworld that’s Conspiring to Islamize America. He can be contacted at davegaubatz@gmail.com.

FP: Dave Gaubatz, welcome to Frontpage Interview.

A terrible tragedy occurred yesterday at Ft. Hood, Texas. Because you are the co-author (with Paul Sperry) of the new book Muslim Mafia, I would like to ask you this: are there any correlations between your message in the book about the ideology of the Muslim Brotherhood and the murder spree at Ft. Hood?

Gaubatz: Thanks Jamie.

Yes. The murders by Malik Nadal Hasan at Ft. Hood, TX are not a ‘lone wolf incident’ as being described by most media organizations. Hasan had been taught the ideology that is being advocated by hundreds of Islamic scholars and Imams in the U.S. We as a country can continue to deny there are numerous Islamic leaders and their supporting organizations such as CAIR, ISNA, MSA, and MANA, to name a few, who advocate killing innocent men, women, and children whom they allege ‘oppress Islam.’
How many more incidents similar to this that have been occurring in America does it take before even the media wants to report the truth? Politicians will always say or do whatever will get them their next vote in an upcoming election, but there was a time in our history when journalists reported everything and were not concerned with ‘political correctness.’

This type of journalistic reporting is dangerous and in itself is a national security issue. Journalists and their affiliated news organization are so afraid of being labeled or sued by organizations such as CAIR that they will withhold the truth from the American people. In part, the murders of innocent people are partly the fault of such journalists and politicians who support organizations such as CAIR.

FP: Your thoughts on CAIR and what happened at Ft. Hood?

Gaubatz: My team and I have conducted first-hand research at over 200 Islamic Centers in the U.S., and in various Islamic organizations such as CAIR. There is one common denominator: There is an open hatred being advocated by Islamic scholars toward Christians, Jews, and Muslims who do not adhere to ‘all aspects’ of Sharia law (Islamic law).
The materials being distributed by these scholars are very clear in their message: violence against anyone who “oppresses” Islam is justified. It makes them subject to the punishment of death. Rifqa Bary (the 17-year-old Muslim girl who left Islam for Christianity) tried to speak out, but has been ignored. Many more Muslims have tried to speak out but the PR machine of the Muslim Brotherhood (backed by Saudi and Egyptian money) keeps them silent.

Young Muslims know what is being taught at their mosques, but have no other choice but to follow their parents and the Imams. If they try to speak out they know there are few politicians, law enforcement, lawyers, or judges who will help them. They are afraid of becoming the victims of people like Malik Hasan who will carry out the orders of the Muslim Brotherhood.

FP: Can you give us some examples of what Muslims in America are being taught and why you believe Malik Hasan was carrying out the orders of the Muslim Brotherhood?

Gaubatz: Jamie there are numerous examples. I will provide a few. Investigative journalists need to ask Imams across our country what these following statements mean and if it is likely and very possible that Muslims could use these teachings to commit acts such as occurred at Ft. Hood, Va. Tech, ‘Trolley Square” (SLC, UT), and numerous other locations.

[1] “The objective of Islamic Jihad is to put an end to the dominance of the un-Islamic systems of government and replace them with Islamic rule, Islam intends to bring about this revolution not in one country or in a few countries but in the entire world. Although initially it is the duty of every member of the Muslim party to work for revolution wherever he lives the final purpose is nothing but a world revolution. Any revolutionary ideology which upholds the good of all mankind, and is not of a mere national unit, cannot limit its horizons to those of any single country or nation.”
Book: “Come Let Us Change This World,” pp. 106–107. Author: Sayyid Abul A’la Mawdudi. Founder of Jamaat-e-Islami (The Islamic Party), a political party in Pakistan.

[2] “If you accept the whole of Islam in your life…a time will come when Communism will fear for its survival in Moscow, Capitalistic democracy will tremble for its safety in Washington and New York.”
Book: “Come Let Us Change This World,” p.83. Author: Sayyid Abul A’la Mawdudi. Founder of Jamaat-e-Islami (The Islamic Party), a political party in Pakistan.

[3] “It is learnt from this Hadith that physical jihad will continue right till the day of resurrection and will be waged as such in some part or the other of the world”. We do not deny the benefit of waging an academic and intellectual war. However, an intellectual war alone cannot be fought everywhere. There are special places and occasions for it. In short, despite waging a jihad with the tongue, pen, rationale and intellect, the Muslim community cannot be absolved of the duty of waging physical jihad.”
Pamphlet: “40 Hadith on Jihad,” pp. 21 -22. Author: Maulana Abdus Samad Siyal. Published in Pakistan.

[4] “The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land, will be that they will be killed.”
Booklet: “Duties of the Learned to Ignorant Muslims,” p. 5. Author: Abdul Qadir Oudah (Muslim Brotherhood/Egypt). Published in Pakistan.

[5] “The person who raises arms in order to curb tyranny and oppression and to eradicate evil is the blessed soul who fights in the way of Allah.”
Pamphlet: Jihad in Islam, p.15, by Abdul Hameed Siddiqi. (Jemmah Islamiyah) Published in Pakistan.

[6] “Islam wishes to destroy all States and Governments anywhere on the face of the earth which are opposed to the ideology and programme of Islam regardless of the country or the Nation which rules it. Islam requires the earth—not just a portion, but the whole planet. Towards this end, Islam wishes to press into service all forces which can bring about a revolution and a composite term for the use of all these forces is ‘Jihad.’
Pamphlet: “Jihad in Islam,” pp.9 -10. Syed Abul A’al Maududi (founder of JI terrorist organization).

FP: Where do Muslims get this type of material?

Gaubatz: This type of material is openly provided to Muslims across America. Islamic scholars have convinced our politicians, courts, and law enforcement that this type of material is covered under our U.S. Constitution’s First Amendment.

Americans need to determine for themselves if the calling for the destruction of our country and the safety of our children was intended by our forefathers. I believe most reasonable people would say violence advocated against innocent people was not the intention of our forefathers, thus this conclusion would leave open the debate that many current politicians are not reasonable people and/or have been ‘bought’ by professional lobbyists within CAIR and similar Muslim Brotherhood organizations. Their personal agenda is leaving our country vulnerable to attack from within.

FP: Final thoughts on the Ft. Hood tragedy?

Gaubatz: Expect more. Israel has endured ‘suicide/attacks’ similar to this for many years. Malik Nabal Hasan is a terrorist supporting the ideology of Al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, and yes, CAIR. In Palestine, the leaders send out the young and vulnerable to carry out the murders in the name of Islam. The same is happening in America.
Support organizations such as ACT! for America because these Americans are educating themselves about such organizations as CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood. They are great people who care about our country and the innocent people worldwide. I encourage everyone to not only read the book Muslim Mafia, but to conduct their own research of the information outlined in the book. Paul Sperry did an outstanding job. Provide a copy to your local politicians and law enforcement officials and ask them what they are doing to protect innocent people in their localities from the Muslim Brotherhood ideology.
FP: Dave Gaubatz, thank you for joining us, for your courage to tell the truth, and for standing up for America.


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Edited by AKPantherFan, 06 November 2009 - 01:34 AM.


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Posted 06 November 2009 - 01:37 AM

I hope you understand the powerlessness of logic and reason in the face of AK and menstrating women.

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 01:38 AM

So I guess if you speak out about it the Muslim Brotherhood will KICK YOUR ASS....

Guess thats why we dont hear much about it...


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