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#1 rayzor

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Posted 19 November 2009 - 11:14 PM

you are going to fail every time. i won't even bother with you. not worth the effort.

now all discussions should be looking toward next year and getting a real GM/HC/OC/QB in.

#2 Snake

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Posted 19 November 2009 - 11:16 PM

The Fins are a good team. Did you expect any less. We need to face the facts that we are a sub par team this year.

#3 Frash Brastard

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Posted 19 November 2009 - 11:21 PM

hopefully those who want to are eating poo somewhere, because they certainly aren't on here doing it.

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Posted 19 November 2009 - 11:21 PM

So many people rip Peppers for making 1 mill a game. Can someone try and convince me why Fox, Delhomme, and Davidson deserve to be making more than $10 a game.

#5 rayzor

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Posted 19 November 2009 - 11:22 PM

only thing i am going to expect is that until we have a major change in the organization and team the future of the panthers will be bleak.

fins are a good team...we should be better.

outcoached, outplayed, out classed.

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Posted 19 November 2009 - 11:23 PM

The Fins are a good team. Did you expect any less. We need to face the facts that we are a sub par team this year.


False,

Anyone who can't see it needs to face the facts.

We are a good team with a sub par QB and Coach.

Jake has doomed this team for one year, Fox/Hurney's lack of finding a QB has doomed it for who knows how long.

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Posted 19 November 2009 - 11:32 PM

Hurney has put together a talented squad, he shouldn't even be in this discussion.

Jake is Jake. When he's asked to do too much, he fails. When he's asked to manage the game, he does well. He was asked to do too much tonight.

Fox hired Davidson. That's his biggest mistake of his career.

Davidson decided to call passes like he had Peyton Manning under center, again. Epic fail.

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Posted 20 November 2009 - 08:00 AM

Jake is playing pisss poor this season that's a "no duh" statement, but if anyone thinks he's the sole reason for this team having a losing record they are sorely mistaken. From play calls, to receivers, problems on the OL, to an up & down defense, this team needs a lot of help if it wants to be a serious contender again.

I'm sure most fans knew after the Panthers scored to make it a 14-17 game, that the defense would let up and let the Dolphins pull away by letting them score again. I knew it would happen because this team rarely plays together, good on offense while playing good on defense, especially for a whole game, that rarely happens with this team. Some teams find a way to win, not the Panthers, they find a way to lose.

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Posted 20 November 2009 - 08:06 AM

Jake is playing pisss poor this season that's a "no duh" statement, but if anyone thinks he's the sole reason for this team having a losing record they are sorely mistaken. From play calls, to receivers, problems on the OL, to an up & down defense, this team needs a lot of help if it wants to be a serious contender again.

I'm sure most fans knew after the Panthers scored to make it a 14-17 game, that the defense would let up and let the Dolphins pull away by letting them score again. I knew it would happen because this team rarely plays together, good on offense while playing good on defense, especially for a whole game, that rarely happens with this team. Some teams find a way to win, not the Panthers, they find a way to lose.


When Miami got that huge 3rd down conversion for 3 and 12...I knew the game was over right then and there.

First, John Fox HAS to be fired this year. That's the BIGGEST and most IMPORTANT change we have to make this year.

We're setback at least a year due to the hellishly awful offseason we had thanks to Hurney.

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Posted 20 November 2009 - 08:12 AM

Davidson decided to call passes like he had Peyton Manning under center, again. Epic fail.



If you think basic receiver sets and routes are too much for jake to burden himself with...well....

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Posted 20 November 2009 - 08:15 AM

I agree, you can't get Fox out of here fast enough. I am sick of this "let's play to win the game 9-6" mentality. You will never be successful, you will be what we are now, an average ".500" kind of team. When you play to keep the score close, you win some and lose some and once in a while (when we get a cupcake schedule like last year) we have a good record. It's a mirage. Fox's brand of football is boring and predictable. Don't believe me, look at the stands. The league has figured out how to beat us, rather, let us just beat ourselves. Delhomme needs to go. Fox needs to go. Davidson needs to go. Crossman needs to go. Jerry won't stand for half empty gamedays much longer. I hope. My $.02.

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Posted 20 November 2009 - 08:15 AM

Hurney has put together a talented squad, he shouldn't even be in this discussion.

Jake is Jake. When he's asked to do too much, he fails. When he's asked to manage the game, he does well. He was asked to do too much tonight.

Fox hired Davidson. That's his biggest mistake of his career.

Davidson decided to call passes like he had Peyton Manning under center, again. Epic fail.


I agree. Just cuz Jake hadn't throw an interception in three games. I guess he thought Jake was back. Silly... Most of us here know you have to have short passes and run the ball. I don't know why Davidson hasn't learned that.

#13 Gman was right

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Posted 20 November 2009 - 08:39 AM

Hurney has put together a talented squad, he shouldn't even be in this discussion.

Jake is Jake. When he's asked to do too much, he fails. When he's asked to manage the game, he does well. He was asked to do too much tonight.

Fox hired Davidson. That's his biggest mistake of his career.

Davidson decided to call passes like he had Peyton Manning under center, again. Epic fail.


Hurney is the one who gave jake twenty million this offseason plus he traded next years first for a couple of average backups. Damn right he should be included in this conversation

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Posted 20 November 2009 - 11:02 AM

Hurney has put together a talented squad, he shouldn't even be in this discussion.

Jake is Jake. When he's asked to do too much, he fails. When he's asked to manage the game, he does well. He was asked to do too much tonight.

Fox hired Davidson. That's his biggest mistake of his career.

Davidson decided to call passes like he had Peyton Manning under center, again. Epic fail.


Hurney is a great scout.But why do you think he should not be in this discussion?

#15 rayzor

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Posted 20 November 2009 - 04:26 PM

hurney should very much be included in this situation.

jake's contract, our lack of decent options at QB, our cap situation that prevented us from keeping good depth over peppers...all those played key roles in us being in the situation we are in now.

hiring davidson....that is on hurney's head as well. he has ultimate say over hiring and firings. he has to take responsibility for failed personnel choices.

it is also on his head that we are without a first round pick next year. he still has time to fix that but the cost may be more than the team can bear.

we have to find a better QB. jake is not good enough anymore. pretending that he is serviceable is fine but having to depend on him rather than having a QB that you can trust to not throw the ball and make completions to your own receiver is stupid. you can't win with a bad QB or an average at best QB without a perfect defense and running game.


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