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#1 2shy

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 07:40 PM

Each year you must play divisional foes. The division has a few young promising DTs(s.ellis, babs in atl, anderson, moore etc). Second round is a GREAT round to pick a top three rated G(sometime the best G goes late 2nd). Makes a strength stronger. There is a opening at the G spot; Key is a FA and old.

y not?

#2 scpanther22

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 07:46 PM

Each year you must play divisional foes. The division has a few young promising DTs(s.ellis, babs in atl, anderson, moore etc). Second round is a GREAT round to pick a top three rated G(sometime the best G goes late 2nd). Makes a strength stronger. There is a opening at the G spot; Key is a FA and old.

y not?


Duke Robinson is y:D

#3 2shy

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 07:59 PM

yea in house could be the answer. if duke was as good as most say, he would have been starting day one and not inactive for most the yr. mac showed some skills and geoff could slid inside. maybe or draft the #1 rated G that can pull and add another element to run game. i still think it should be consider.

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 08:08 PM

Mac got the nod over Duke on Sunday's because he could back up any of the interior line spots... as far as I know, Duke couldn't swap in at C.

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 08:28 PM

yea in house could be the answer. if duke was as good as most say, he would have been starting day one and not inactive for most the yr. mac showed some skills and geoff could slid inside. maybe or draft the #1 rated G that can pull and add another element to run game. i still think it should be consider.


duke is very talented just lazy and not in nfl shape. He just got by on his own merits. Hopefully he's ready to step up next season.

I really think WR or DT should be our first priorities, but i would have no problem with an OG or athletic LB.

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 08:29 PM

yea in house could be the answer. if duke was as good as most say, he would have been starting day one and not inactive for most the yr. mac showed some skills and geoff could slid inside. maybe or draft the #1 rated G that can pull and add another element to run game. i still think it should be consider.


yeah.But fox values experience and vets so he left Vincent at G..D.Robinson was the Best G out of the draft last year.It just depends on what we do with him.Bernadeau could start but then we would need a back up Center.

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 09:07 PM

with four spots solid and #5 being a pretty critical run game spot, I'd really prefer putting the two guys with more experience - Bernadeau and Schwartz - in the role and let them fight it out. Loser becomes a top backup.

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Posted 12 January 2010 - 04:41 AM

I would love to have a young stud in there, as it would lock out OLine up for a number of years baring injuries or people stopping their improvement. However, we drafted the top OG for a power running system last season, so it would seem a touch dramatic to target the top guard in this draft as well.

Also to consider is Mac and Schwartz. They are two absolute workhorses, so if Duke does not pan out, we are going to have a average or better guy who plays hard every play. I think their performance late in the season has shown it is not an immediate need AND we can draft late and still produce.

Address it in the 5th-7th rounds, as most teams are drafting OTs to slide inside these days which means one of the top OGs will slide. We unfortunately have a couple glaring holes that really do need to be addressed first, although if the best value is an OG I would not be displeased.

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Posted 12 January 2010 - 10:09 AM

Olineman are the easiest position to find gems later in the draft.. it's not worth spending the high pick on one unless you need a surefire starter day 1.

#10 Crixtala

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Posted 12 January 2010 - 10:13 AM

Where is everyone getting that Duke was lazy or an underachiever? I don't remember ever seeing/reading anything that even insinuated this.

#11 2shy

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Posted 12 January 2010 - 07:57 PM

duke is lazy and slow learner, according to various reports. just seems many think is he the best G EVAAARR! fact; drafting late in the fif round and was inactive most the season. still many what to give the job to him.

Not saying G is a top need, just should part of the discussion. WRS, QB, PK/K returner, then maybe G or C/G hybrid.

I'm a believer in drafting the best player available theory. Not if a HUGE NEED is on the board, but the the best player is rated slightly higher. Then go with need.

G is just a thought. In-house could be the answer.

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 10:22 AM

I don't think Duke's issues are that he is lazy. He had some behavior problems and is a little immature, coupled with the fact that at draft time he was/is more raw talent than anything else. Not to mention last years draft was very deep at OL. That is why he fell more than anything else.

He is very strong and plays with a hell of a mean streak. Maybe too mean, if possible.

Just because he didn't start day one doesn't mean that he is not going to ever be capable of being a very good G for us. Give him some time. I think that we are pretty set at OL. Draft a late round guy that has promise and can play multiple positions, I wouldn't spend a pick higher than 6th round on an OL unless someone just free-fell like crazy.

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 10:42 AM

duke is lazy and slow learner, according to various reports.


Do you have links to said reports? Like I said earlier, I never heard/read that anywhere (although, it could have just been because I wasn't paying attention), and would just like to see where that was stated.

#14 Urrymonster

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 11:45 AM

http://www.nfldrafts....php?pyid=58122

He is not listed as a slow learner or lazy, more that he has questionable motivation.

His main character flaw was his rash of penalties (personal fouls) and potential anger problems on and off the field. They also state that he will need to be monitored in the off season as he routinely lets his weight go and has been know to get up to 380 lbs.

#15 Crixtala

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 01:24 PM

http://www.nfldrafts....php?pyid=58122

He is not listed as a slow learner or lazy, more that he has questionable motivation.

His main character flaw was his rash of penalties (personal fouls) and potential anger problems on and off the field. They also state that he will need to be monitored in the off season as he routinely lets his weight go and has been know to get up to 380 lbs.


So nothing was said like this from the Panthers or seen in TC last year, though?


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