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#1 SorthNarolina

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 02:27 AM

http://www.nfl.com/v...9000d5d80dc06d8

it should be on the front page

whoever the fella in the bottom right is is just foolish, seriously he thinks matt ryan is the MVP of the leauge over his own teamate turner, because "without ryan turner would be facing 9 man fronts"

so because ryan is good enough to keep the defense from completley concentrating on the run(which alot of average QBs do) he is more valuable to his team than the guy donig all the dirty work?

have you ever heard they argument that an MVP caliber RB would be nothing without his quarterback?

ryan is having an excellent year and looks to be a promising QB that could be one of the best if he keeps improving but COME ON, I've never heard such ignorance, and he argues this with a former NFL RB

oh and I don't think deangelo will ever be considered because he splits carries, even though he at least deserves consideration

#2 Falcons1stPanthers2nd

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 02:34 AM

Turner or Manning. Ryan would have been killed early on if not for Turner.

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 09:31 AM

Turner or Rivers should be the two being voted on.

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 11:00 AM

Im thinking more of a Manning as MVP, 9 game win streak, basically carried the weight of his team on his shoulders to get back to playoff this season when they looked down and out of early. Rivers is a great contender but I do not know if he has the popularity or the stats that can reward him the trophy... its more a popularity contest then anything sometimes

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 11:31 AM

I forgot about Rivers. Add him to my list.

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 11:34 AM

Im thinking more of a Manning as MVP, 9 game win streak, basically carried the weight of his team on his shoulders to get back to playoff this season when they looked down and out of early. Rivers is a great contender but I do not know if he has the popularity or the stats that can reward him the trophy... its more a popularity contest then anything sometimes



Check the stats part.

Here are a few pretty meaningful stats from this year for Rivers

#1 QB Rating
#1 TDs (tie Brees)
#1 Yards Per Attempt
#1 1st Down %
#1 TD/INT Ratio (amongst leading QBs, 6 less than Brees)


I would say that he has the stats, but not the Name.

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 01:04 PM

Check the stats part.

Here are a few pretty meaningful stats from this year for Rivers

#1 QB Rating
#1 TDs (tie Brees)
#1 Yards Per Attempt
#1 1st Down %
#1 TD/INT Ratio (amongst leading QBs, 6 less than Brees)


I would say that he has the stats, but not the Name.


Manning was playing on a bum knee the whole year and may not have the stats that Rivers does....but just consider that the Chargers needed a complete collapse by the Broncos just to make the playoffs in a god awful division. The Colts shook off how many injuries to the OL and never had a running game either, and won 9 straight games down the stretch. I don't see how anyone but Manning can win this year.

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 01:20 PM

Manning was playing on a bum knee the whole year and may not have the stats that Rivers does....but just consider that the Chargers needed a complete collapse by the Broncos just to make the playoffs in a god awful division. The Colts shook off how many injuries to the OL and never had a running game either, and won 9 straight games down the stretch. I don't see how anyone but Manning can win this year.



Ummmm, bum knee, you mean like tearing the ACL in the playoffs last year then coming back and having a, so far, career year?

It is not about who makes the playoffs, it is about who is the most valuable player to their team during the season. Rivers was the best QB in the NFL this year and the team barely got into the playoffs, you tell me which team needed their QB more?

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 01:32 PM

Ummmm, bum knee, you mean like tearing the ACL in the playoffs last year then coming back and having a, so far, career year??


Manning missed all of training camp after surgery just 6 weeks before the season. He had no reps in the preseason either.

It is not about who makes the playoffs, it is about who is the most valuable player to their team during the season. ?


If that's the case then, you could argue Drew Brees should be the MVP. Which defeats the purpose of the award.

Rivers was the best QB in the NFL this year and the team barely got into the playoffs, you tell me which team needed their QB more?


The Colts did. You think they would have had a shot at any type of playoff run without Manning? This is a team that was banged up on both sides of the ball, and ended up winning 12 games. And like I said, Rivers' team wouldn't be in the playoffs if not for them having a crappy division. 8 wins < 12. Rivers should have been a Pro Bowler but giving the guy the MVP of the entire league over Manning makes no sense.

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 01:55 PM

Manning missed all of training camp after surgery just 6 weeks before the season. He had no reps in the preseason either.



If that's the case then, you could argue Drew Brees should be the MVP. Which defeats the purpose of the award.



The Colts did. You think they would have had a shot at any type of playoff run without Manning? This is a team that was banged up on both sides of the ball, and ended up winning 12 games. And like I said, Rivers' team wouldn't be in the playoffs if not for them having a crappy division. 8 wins < 12. Rivers should have been a Pro Bowler but giving the guy the MVP of the entire league over Manning makes no sense.


Manning did have a great year, however I don't think that the Chargers win 4 games without Rivers this year, I don't feel that same way about the Colts. It's just an opinion.

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 11:41 AM

Jake is my fav for MVP. When he came back to this team, the team changed. His presence changed this team. Confidence was back. Leadership was back. The heart of this team was back. Jake may not have the stats, he wasn't the best QB this year. But there is no doubt about what his return did for this team. Think of what it would have been like if he hadn't been here this year. If there is a more valuable player in this league, I'm not sure who it would be.

#12 panthersphan

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Posted 01 January 2009 - 03:11 AM

Manning > Rivers....Peyton is much more "valuable" to his team.

Manning should win...12-4 record...if they didn't have him they'd be 4-12...it's an obvious choice imo...

#13 Zaximus

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Posted 01 January 2009 - 10:32 AM

Peyton and it's why he's leading them to Super Bowl this year...watch.

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Posted 04 January 2009 - 04:18 PM

ok. I will.

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Posted 04 January 2009 - 05:04 PM

Peyton and it's why he's leading them to Super Bowl this year...watch.


ok. I will.


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