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#21 chbright

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 03:51 PM

The people that think we can switch to a 3-4 and magically turn into the Steelers or Ravens in one off season, need to stop posting on football boards.


not saying that if you read anything after 3-4.

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 03:52 PM

Turgo-- IS that YOU??? :ihih:

Turgo HAS ALWAYS rode the talent of the players. Win or Lose he will be gone after the season if he doesnt tighten up this defense.


Yeah, Nick Hayden and Darwin Walker are simply awsome. How could anybody fail to stop the Giants running game for 5 quarters with those two in the line up?

And what about all the passes our opponents have been completing on Marshall...are those happening because of the scheme or mistakes by the player?

Also, I've seen Lucas get burned when he was playing bump and run, playing off, in a zone, and in man to man... so what's the solution?

#23 monstercat

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 03:56 PM

not saying that if you read anything after 3-4.


Actually, I wasn't even talking about you. It just so happened that my post appeared right after yours. I've seen many posters here suggest that we switch to a 3-4.

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 06:02 PM

John Fox and Mike Trgovac are good coaches and we have a good defense. The problem is that they have been facing some of the best offenses in the league in the last 5 weeks or so, and they had to face the last two with back up D-linemen.


BTW, we are two wins away from the Super Bowl, in case some of you haven't noticed.





Oh ok, so a good defense only plays good vs bad offenses?
Our defense is not good right now, and what you say is even worse, because these playoff teams are not going to have some of the worst offenses in the league.
Please stop with that, all teams are good here on in. So if we only play well vs bad teams, well guess what?

No one has forgotten we are two games away from the Super Bowl, just some of us realize that's as close as were going to get with our current defense playing like it has been.

So the difference between you and some posters here isn't exactly what you say, the difference is some of us see that being two games away from the Super Bowl is different from actually getting to the Super Bowl.

The playoffs are totally on our d's shoulder, if they play well we go far. If they don't we could very well be one and done.

I hope we see the defense play like we know they can.

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 06:09 PM

Who would we replace him with?

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 06:40 PM

The playoffs are totally on our d's shoulder, if they play well we go far. If they don't we could very well be one and done.


Your living in the past brother.

The Panthers have the BEST running game over the last 8 games, one of the best receivers in Smith and a QB with playoff experience and over the last 4 games, I would venture to guess the offense has scored as many, if not more, points than any other team. Given all of that, can you really say the playoffs are totally on the "d's" shoulders.

I believe your dislike/prejudice of Trgo is clouding your judgement.

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 06:59 PM

Now we know Trgovac reads the Huddle! His screen name is jpo287!


I wish I was. I would proudly announce my presence to all you imbeciles!

Look at any metric and you will see that the D under Fox/Trgo has consistently been in the top ten over his tenure. And while all you guys cry about all the talent on the D, the last time I looked, it wasn't exactly filled with first round / Pro Bowl guys. Sure you have Peppers, Beaston and Gamble, but I would hardly call anyone else a standout.

Lucus seems to have lost a step, Harris, while a great hitter, isn't much in coverage, Godfrey is a rookie and it definitely shows at times, Marshall has regressed, Diggs is at the end of his career, Davis has the speed but has never been known for his coverage abilities, Peppers is, well, Peppers but I would hardly put Johnson, Kemo, Lewis or Breyton anywhere near his talent level.

The Panthers problems on defense are more from injuries/attrition than anything else. They just didn't start the season with a ton of talent. Heck, I remember everyone on this board crying about the D-line at the beginning of the season and how they were worried it would suck. Well it seems to me it has surpassed everyone's expectations. I would attribute that to your favorite coach: Trgo.

Yes, the defense has suffered as of late but when you start the season weak, any injury really magnifies the lack of talent depth-wise.

So cry and bitch all you want. I personally think this is one of Trgo's better season given how little talent he had to start with.

Hopefully they can heal up over the bye. If so, I fully expect them to be back to form. Of course, even if they play great, I am sure you guys will still find something to whine about. It's just your nature.

Happy New Year!

#28 monstercat

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 07:19 PM

Great post JPO!

I would also like to reiterate that even if they did replace Trgovac, whoever the replacement is will be running the defense that Fox wants him to run anyway. And it won't be a 3-4.

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 07:36 PM

[quote name='monstercat']John Fox and Mike Trgovac are good coaches and we have a good defense. The problem is that they have been facing some of the best offenses in the league in the last 5 weeks or so, and they had to face the last two with back up D-linemen.]

I couldn't agree more...

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Posted 01 January 2009 - 01:08 AM

So cry and bitch all you want. I personally think this is one of Trgo's better season given how little talent he had to start with.
Happy New Year!



I will, and I personally think this is the absolute worst season ever for Turd.
Hence opinions, and being entitle to one.
If everyone was the same the world be pretty boring.

So you can cry and bitch all you want about people crying and bitching.

Happy New Year!:thumbsup: