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#1 thunderraiden

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 02:32 PM

Remember Wes Welker. Went undrafted, ran a 4.6 40 time? Wait what, Wes Welker ran a 4.6 40 time? yea! Can you tell on game day this dude only runs a 4.6 40? more evidence that 40 times dont mean s***

http://texastech.sco...m/2/564503.html

For an example of this, look no further than my personal hero, the beloved Wes Welker. Everyone, including Texas Tech, overlooked his abilities. All these teams saw was his diminutive height (5’9”) and mediocre speed (4.6). Wes proved everyone completely wrong throughout his career. The Longhorns and Aggies were left wondering how Welker completely torched their defenses year after year, and the Sooners were kicking themselves for letting Wes get out of Oklahoma. However, even after his illustrious collegiate career, Welker went undrafted.



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#2 scpanther22

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 02:42 PM

yeah..From all the things Hurney has said he puts his stock in what he sees on tape.I think thats a good philosophy..for the most part.But sometimes that opens us up to getting the D.Jarrets of the world.

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 03:05 PM

I wouldn't say 40 times means s***.. but I would go as far to say that a 40 time can not be more heavily weighted than other factors.. Chris Johnson's speed for instance, converts to the football field.. and some guy's track speed, does not convert to the football field.. it's an inexact science.

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 03:56 PM

Hate to be devil's advocat but Welker doesn't look fast and I am not surprised by that 40 time whatsoever. 40 times are only really relevant to get a concept on how athletic the player is, and for the CBs and WRs how they can deal with the deep ball.

I haven't looked it up, but i bet Welker's cone drill and shuttle were pretty good. That's where his true measure lies as he is very explosive in andout of cuts and has exceptional agility. Couple that with crisp and deft routes and you have the perfect slot guy, provided he can catch ;)

I think 40 times are just as important for the big guys, because it gives an indication to scouts if they get by with technique or natural physical athleticism. It also gives an indication on the physical 'ceiling' on some, as a toned guy with decent technique who runs slow obviously has physical limitations. However a sloppy runner with a little excess weight and a decent time could be moulded to be a physical specimen.

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 05:56 PM

Welker does not look fast on the field. The use him correctly on short little routes. I don't think I've ever seen him outrun anyone. No surprise he ran a 4.6. I think 40 times can be very important. Just look at Chris Johnson. His 40 time is the reason he was drafted where he was, and look how that played out.

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Posted 13 February 2010 - 04:48 AM

Yeah I agree with everyone else. I don't think he looks much faster than an LB

#7 2jakefansinva

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Posted 14 February 2010 - 12:40 PM

Hate to be devil's advocat but Welker doesn't look fast and I am not surprised by that 40 time whatsoever. 40 times are only really relevant to get a concept on how athletic the player is, and for the CBs and WRs how they can deal with the deep ball.

I haven't looked it up, but i bet Welker's cone drill and shuttle were pretty good. That's where his true measure lies as he is very explosive in andout of cuts and has exceptional agility. Couple that with crisp and deft routes and you have the perfect slot guy, provided he can catch ;)

I think 40 times are just as important for the big guys, because it gives an indication to scouts if they get by with technique or natural physical athleticism. It also gives an indication on the physical 'ceiling' on some, as a toned guy with decent technique who runs slow obviously has physical limitations. However a sloppy runner with a little excess weight and a decent time could be moulded to be a physical specimen.



There is a guy on NFL.com that has a formula that combines all of these and more to get a real good indication of a players true "football speed". I believe he was a scout at one time and read his article a few years ago on this subject.

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Posted 17 February 2010 - 05:53 PM

Darrel Green is 50 and runs a 4.4.....it was on Yahoo the other day...

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Posted 19 February 2010 - 02:46 PM

be thankful teams put too much stock in 40 times; it's the reason Williams was still on the board for us to get him.


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