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#1 rodeo

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Posted 15 February 2010 - 11:25 PM

The freedom that is given you on paper, that is written down in law books and constitutions, does not do you a bit of good. Such freedom only means that you have the right to do a certain thing. But it doesn't mean that you can do it. To be able to do it, you must have the chance, the opportunity. You have a right to eat three fine meals a day, but if you haven't the means, the opportunity to get those meals, then what good is that right to you?

The government fools you into believing that you are independent and free. In this way you are fooled and duped every day of your life. But how does it happen that you didn't think of it before? How is it that most other people don't see it, either?

It is because you and every one else are lied to about this all the time, from your earliest childhood.

You are told to be honest, while you are being robbed all your life.

You are taught that killing is wrong, while the government hangs and electrocutes people and slaughters them in war.

You are told to obey the law and government, though law and government stand for robbery and murder.

Thus all through life you are lied to, fooled, and deceived, so that it will be easier to make profits out of you, to exploit you.

...'Then it is not my boss who supports me, but I him?'

Of course. He gives you a job; that is, permission to work in the factory or mill which was not built by him but by other workers like yourself. And for that permission you help to support him for the rest of your life or as long as you work for him. You support him so generously that he can afford a mansion in the city and a home in the country, even several of them, and servants to attend to his wants and those of his family, and for the entertainment of his friends, and for horse races and for boat races, and for a hundred other things.

But it is not only to him that you are so generous.

Out of your labor, by direct and indirect taxation, are supported the entire government, local, state, and national, the schools and the churches, and all the other institutions whose business it is to protect profits and keep you fooled. You and your fellow workers, labor as a whole, support them all. Do you wonder that they all tell you that everything is all right and that you should be good and keep quiet?

Alexander Berkman 1929

#2 ItsNotGonnaBeAlright

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Posted 15 February 2010 - 11:34 PM

Ovsei was such a happy guy.

Edit: Misspelled. Mi'scuse.

Edited by ItsNotGonnaBeAlright, 15 February 2010 - 11:37 PM.


#3 Jangler

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 12:05 AM

"Man's inhumanity to man" is not the last word. The truth lies deeper. It is economic slavery, the savage struggle for a crumb, that has converted mankind into wolves and sheep.

It is the system, rather than individuals, that is the source of pollution and degradation. My prison-house environment is but another manifestation of the Midas-hand, whose cursed touch turns everything to the brutal service of Mammon.

If your object is to secure liberty, you must learn to do without authority and compulsion. If you intend to live in peace and harmony with your fellow-men, you and they should cultivate brotherhood and respect for each other. If you want to work together with them for your mutual benefit, you must practice cooperation. The social revolution means much more than the reorganization of conditions only: it means the establishment of new human values and social relationships, a changed attitude of man to man, as of one free and independent to his equal; it means a different spirit in individual and collective life, and that spirit cannot be born overnight. It is a spirit to be cultivated, to be nurtured and reared, as the most delicate flower it is, for indeed it is the flower of a new and beautiful existence.

Terrorism is tempting with its tremendous possibilities. It offers a mechanical solution, as it were, in hopeless situations. ... the principles of terrorism unavoidably rebound to the fatal injury of liberty and revolution. Absolute power corrupts and defeats its partisans no less than its opponents. A people that knows not liberty becomes accustomed to dictatorship: fighting despotism and counter-revolution, terrorism itself becomes their efficient school. Once on the road of terrorism, the State necessarily becomes estranged from the people.

#4 Fiz

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 12:46 AM

freedom is a meaningless bougie idea

#5 Kevin Greene

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 12:57 AM

The trick is to live better than you are guaranteed.

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#6 The Link

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 07:18 AM

Government is teh ghey.

#7 mmmbeans

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 07:52 AM

freedom is a meaningless bougie idea


using the word bougie is pretty bougie.

#8 Cat

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 07:59 AM

I approve of this thread.


wtf what happened to rep?!

#9 Kral

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 07:59 AM

Remember kids... It's your duty to pay your taxes, kill commies, and say your prayers to god at night.

#10 mmmbeans

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 08:10 AM

I approve of this thread.


wtf what happened to rep?!


*groan*

#11 Jangler

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 08:14 AM

Taxes are unconstitutional!

#12 Kral

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 08:16 AM

freedom is a meaningless bougie idea


Did you write it like that because you can't spell bourgeois?

Or do you prefer to keep the plebs in the dark about what you really say?

#13 Kral

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 08:17 AM

Taxes are unconstitutional!


They sure suck too!

#14 Samuel L. Jackson

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 08:22 AM

I started thinking the other day... (Earth shattering, I know)

If one were to declare their own independance from the US, or secede, or whatever... what would the consequences be?

Would the US actually retake your land and home by force? What if you own your home outright and only have to pay the "Tax value" on it every year...

Sure, there would be issues with still using roads, the dollar, and other services provided by the US, but could one feasibly get around all that?

My guess is that if you were serious about it, they'd come in and kick you out by force... Would other Americans see this as an act of war against someone minding their own business or just the government doing their job against a crazy person?

#15 Kral

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 08:24 AM

They will come with machine guns and gas grenades and execute you or imprison you.

edit: But only if you have the assets to make it worth their time. Otherwise the cops will just come get you in the dead of night.

Edited by Kral, 16 February 2010 - 08:29 AM.



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