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#16 Happy Panther

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 09:04 AM

Howabout tidal energy or other sources of energy that aren't being harnessed?

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The problem is that we haven't figured out how to use wind or waves or solar in the way that we use nuclear. Long story short, if there is an intense demand spike right now, you local nuclear power plant can handle it while others probably can't. No cloudy days with nuclear either.

One reason nuclear technology is so advanced is that the world spent trillions on nuke research in order to build bombs. If we had figured a way to use solar bombs solar might be advanced to the point we could use it as efficiently as nuke power.

As far as I know we have no clue how to properly dispose of the waste. Reprocessing just separates the components (I need to understand this better). No matter what you do right now you are going to end up with something that takes 20,000 years to decay.

Keep stuffing dangerous stuff in the ground that doesn't go away for 20,000 years and eventually something is going to snap.

#17 Kral

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 09:07 AM

stuff I read


Short term solutions are acceptable but what we need is something for the long term other than waffling around with these nonrenewable sources.

Edited by Kral, 16 February 2010 - 09:09 AM.


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Posted 16 February 2010 - 09:09 AM

Eventually fusion will be figured out. Until then our society needs a lot of power. When no base load plants are operating and you want to run your Cuisinart on a cloudy calm day, you are going to blame the power company when it won't come on.

#19 mmmbeans

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 09:10 AM

Eventually fusion will be figured out. Until then our society needs a lot of power. When no base load plants are operating and you want to run your Cuisinart on a cloudy calm day, you are going to blame the power company when it won't come on.


i wish i had a cuisinart to run on cloudy days.

#20 Fiz

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 09:15 AM

Eventually fusion will be figured out.


http://news.national...lasers-science/

#21 cookinwithgas

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 09:16 AM

I wish I was little bit taller,
I wish I was a baller,
I wish I had a girl who looked good I would call her
I wish I had a rabbit in a hat with a bat
and a six four ImpalaI wish
I was like six-foot-nine
So I can get with Leoshi
Cause she don't know me but yo she's really fine
You know I see her all the time
Everywhere I go, and even in my dreams
I can scheme a way to make her mine
Cause I know she's livin phat
Her boyfriend's tall and he plays ball
So how am I gonna compete with that'
Cause when it comes to playing basketball
I'm always last to be picked
And in some cases never picked at all
So I just lean up on the wall
Or sit up in the bleachers with the rest of the girls
Who came to watch their men ball
Dag y'all!
I never understood, black
Why the jocks get the fly girls
And me I get the hood rats
I tell 'em scat, skittle, scabobble
Got hit with a bottle
And I been in the hospital
For talkin' that mess
I confess it's a shame when you livin' in a city
That's the size of a box and nobody knows yo' name
Glad I came to my senses
Like quick-quick got sick-sick to my stomach
Overcommeth by the thoughts of me and her together
Right?So when I asked her out she said I wasn't her type
I wish I had a brand-new car
So far, I got this hatchback
And everywhere I go, yo I gets laughed at
And when I'm in my car I'm laid back
I got an 8-track and a spare tire in the backseat
But that's flat
And do you really wanna know what's really whack
See I can't even get a date
So, what do you think of that?
I heard that prom night is a bomb night
With the hood rats you can hold tight
But really tho' I 'm a figaro
When I'm in my car I can't even get a hello
Well so many people wanna cruise Crenshaw on Sunday
Well then I'ma have to get in my car and go
You know I take the 110 until the 105
Get off at Crenshaw tell my homies look alive
Cause it's hard to survive when your livin'In a concrete jungle and
These girls just keep passin' me by
She looks fly, she looks fly
Makes me say my, my, my
I wish I was a little bit taller...I wish I was a baller...I wish I was a little bit taller y'all
I wish I was a baller
Hey, I wish I had my way'
Cause everyday would be a Friday
You could even speed on the highway
I would play ghetto games
Name my kids ghetto names
Little Mookie, big Al, Lorraine
Yo you know that's on the real
So if you're down on your luck
Then you should notice how I feel
Cause if you don't want me around
See I go simple, I go easy, I go greyhound
Hey, you , what's that sound?Everybody look what's going down
Ahhhh, yes, ain't that fresh?Everybody wants to get down like dat
I wish, I wish, I wish...

#22 Matt Foley

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 09:19 AM

I read in USA Today that with our recent supercollider experiments we recorded temperatures at like 70 bazillion degrees.

#23 cookinwithgas

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 09:20 AM

And of course we will use that awesome tech for something like quicker tanning beds.

#24 Kral

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 09:23 AM

That article Fiz posted says they expect fusion to be achieved sometime this year.

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 09:24 AM

http://news.national...lasers-science/


That's some cool poo right there..

#26 Fiz

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 09:33 AM

That article Fiz posted says they expect fusion to be achieved sometime this year.


years until viable.

#27 g5jamz

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 09:38 AM

http://news.national...lasers-science/


Problem is that dude with the tentacle arms cannot be trusted.

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 09:48 AM

hey ready for me to kill the mood? Nuclear isn't an answer to any of our problems either.

firstly, there's not a lot of uranium known to be left in the world, and it's easy to find. As this handy little chart shows, we'll run out of uranium before we die if demand remains constant. Here's a hint: it's not going to remain at the current rate of demand.

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On top of that, Nuclear reactors take YEARS to build, and a couple more to come online. The plants obama wants probably won't be operating at full capacity for the better part of the decade.

This is assuming there's no one else in line for the absolutely critical parts that only three places in the world have the capacity to build. furthermore, they're incredibly labor/material/energy intensive, and it's difficult to say at which point the "green" part kicks in.

but basically nuclear power fascination is a stupid post modern dream left over from the fifties when people believed we'd be riding around in flying cars and that no matter how badly humans fuged up the environment in pursuit of their own selfish desires science would come around to bail them out. the only way to meet energy needs in the United States without digging up wyoming and turning the planet into venus will be the drastically restructure how we live, commute, work, travel, and grow food.

#29 Kral

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 09:50 AM

years until viable.


Yes but it will still be exciting if they get it done and can begin making it usable.

And at the above: So in short we are screwed.

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 09:55 AM

And at the above: So in short we are screwed.


blame the baby boomers


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