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Okay, our pass rush ranks 9th in the league. above teams like Chicago, Baltimore, Atlanta....so for the last time, our secondary's recent incompetence isn't related to our flippin pass rush

Stats never tell the full story. Watching the games tell the full story. Outside of Peppers and Johnson on the ends, there is no pressure.

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Totally false, rofl shows how much you know. There are TONS of DB's in any facet of football with great hand skills.

Simply covering a receiver is only a part of what being a DB is.

Just like catching the ball is only a part of what being a receiver is.

You can have the best hands in the world, but if you can't get open or run good routes it really won't mean much.

But please continue being ignorant.

I stand by my point that a lot of NFL DB's become that after playing ball skill positions at lower levels of football. It is also possible to make your point with being an ass hole about it. Then again I guess you are what you are.

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I believe we can all get along here...... it's just a plain fact that our defensive backfield is fairly good "at best". Gamble is the best corner we have, in fact I'd think he's above average for the league. Lucas will have issues every year..... one year he can't tackle and gets benched..... one year he can't cover..... Green Bay let him go fairly easily as a free agent. Marshall has those great plays but overall is less than stellar as well.

And let's don't forget, ALL defensive backs get beat!!! I'm the first one to bitch about Lucas but do realize we don't have better options.

Let's pray for a good pass rush.... get healthy tackles, we'll need a push up the middle.

Just my .02

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I believe we can all get along here...... it's just a plain fact that our defensive backfield is fairly good "at best". Gamble is the best corner we have, in fact I'd think he's above average for the league. Lucas will have issues every year..... one year he can't tackle and gets benched..... one year he can't cover..... Green Bay let him go fairly easily as a free agent. Marshall has those great plays but overall is less than stellar as well.

And let's don't forget, ALL defensive backs get beat!!! I'm the first one to bitch about Lucas but do realize we don't have better options.

Let's pray for a good pass rush.... get healthy tackles, we'll need a push up the middle.

Just my .02

First of all I believe we got Lucas from the Seahawks. Gamble has improved a great deal this year primarily in his tackling. He has become a complete corner and as a result hasn't been targeted as much as Lucas during the second half of the season. I think Fox summed it up best after the Saints game. We have played some pretty good offenses during this stretch.

On being concerned about the defense giving up leads in recent weeks: What I'd say is that we've played the No. 1 offense, the No. 2 offense, the No. 4 offense, the No. 6 offense. When you come down the stretch with five games to finish the season -- at Green Bay, which is no box of chocolates, Monday Night Football against the Tampa Bay Bucs, the No. 2 offense in the NFL in Denver and you've got to go to the New York Giants -- the defending world champions -- and then you've got to go on the road and win, which hasn't been done this season in our (division). You go 4-1, and I'm not concerned with much.

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We have three players with 4 sacks a piece...that's good pressure no matter how you slice it. Tampa Bay has one of the worst pass rushes in the league, yet they allow only 188 yards through the air per game.

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We have three players with 4 sacks a piece...that's good pressure no matter how you slice it. Tampa Bay has one of the worst pass rushes in the league, yet they allow only 188 yards through the air per game.

188 through the air is misleading when teams can run all over them. No need to pass if the run is working.

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lucas needs to blow out his acl during the bye

that's a pretty dumb thing to say.

Seriously... why the f*ck would you want one of our players to get hurt?

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188 through the air is misleading when teams can run all over them. No need to pass if the run is working.

Not quite, Tampa Bay had a stout running defense until we had our way with them.

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Lol, I did say Packers, huh???? sorry, too much Crown Royal!!! Yeah, I agree with that about playing some pretty good offenses... and also agree that they pick on Lucas because he's not as good as Gamble. Let's all hope they step it up a notch and hit someone hard next Saturday.... On that note, am I crazy or did it look like Harris has played the last couple games to "not get hurt"? I saw him pull up on a few opportunities and just thought that maybe he's waiting until the playoffs to start pounding people again.... I'm prolly exagerating, but it did look funny to see him not finish off someone when he had the chance....

First of all I believe we got Lucas from the Seahawks. Gamble has improved a great deal this year primarily in his tackling. He has become a complete corner and as a result hasn't been targeted as much as Lucas during the second half of the season. I think Fox summed it up best after the Saints game. We have played some pretty good offenses during this stretch.

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the Defense as a whole needs to step it up...and KEEP it up...

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Needs to stop making backles...I mean back tackles, tackles with his back whateverTF you wanna call'em. JUST STOP, CHRIS!

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Okay, our pass rush ranks 9th in the league. above teams like Chicago, Baltimore, Atlanta....so for the last time, our secondary's recent incompetence isn't related to our flippin pass rush

Maybe not the pass rush, but it is definitely related to the lack of 2 of the starting D line. You might not understand, but when you are missing 2 key guys, it takes 3 or 4 to make up for them, so you go from 4 stopping the run to 2 and 2 newbies plus linebacker help with safety backup which leaves soft coverage forced on our corners with not much safety backup. Thats the problem. We were one of the top 5 pass defenses for the first 8 games until the injuries to the D line started up.

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