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#16 tarheelpride

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 12:25 AM

EVERYONE needs to step it up. this is the playoffs. go hard or go home.

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 12:29 AM

The only reason I say this is because he was playing lights out before the ATL game that we lost. After that game he got beat by the likes of Dominik Hixon...I mean that just shouldn't happen to a top 5 corner in the league. He needs to be the leader in that secondary and lead by example..

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 12:29 AM

gamble has played well for peanuts and he's already earned his big paycheck

lucas on the other hand has been getting picked on and hasn't earned anything close to his very lucrative salary

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 12:33 AM

lucas needs to blow out his acl during the bye


that's a pretty dumb thing to say.

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 12:34 AM

Gamble's decision makin' skills are much better than Ken Lucas ..4 sho'.


you know, a couple of years ago a statement like this would be unfathomable... crazy how true it appears today.

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 12:42 AM

I will be satisfied if our front 7 step it up against the run.

...and interior pressure on the pass.

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 12:51 AM

If they could catch they would be receivers rather than DBs.


True enough. IMO, the intereptions are nice to have, but the main thing is to cover. To many times, corners and safeties will go for the int when they should just knock it down.

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 04:34 AM

The only reason I say this is because he was playing lights out before the ATL game that we lost. After that game he got beat by the likes of Dominik Hixon...I mean that just shouldn't happen to a top 5 corner in the league. He needs to be the leader in that secondary and lead by example..


If i recall correctly, he got beat when Eli escaped from pressure and slung it downfield. Had there been the easy sack, it wouldn't have been an issue. We've been banged up on the d-line too much as of late, for gamble, i think any drop off in production is because of the d-line. However, lucas has been picked on before all of this. Gamble goes as far as our pass rush. If anything needs to be improved it should be that.

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 09:09 AM

Okay, our pass rush ranks 9th in the league. above teams like Chicago, Baltimore, Atlanta....so for the last time, our secondary's recent incompetence isn't related to our flippin pass rush

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 09:20 AM

Okay, our pass rush ranks 9th in the league. above teams like Chicago, Baltimore, Atlanta....so for the last time, our secondary's recent incompetence isn't related to our flippin pass rush


Stats never tell the full story. Watching the games tell the full story. Outside of Peppers and Johnson on the ends, there is no pressure.

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 10:21 AM

Totally false, rofl shows how much you know. There are TONS of DB's in any facet of football with great hand skills.
Simply covering a receiver is only a part of what being a DB is.
Just like catching the ball is only a part of what being a receiver is.

You can have the best hands in the world, but if you can't get open or run good routes it really won't mean much.

But please continue being ignorant.


I stand by my point that a lot of NFL DB's become that after playing ball skill positions at lower levels of football. It is also possible to make your point with being an ass hole about it. Then again I guess you are what you are.

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 10:28 AM

I believe we can all get along here...... it's just a plain fact that our defensive backfield is fairly good "at best". Gamble is the best corner we have, in fact I'd think he's above average for the league. Lucas will have issues every year..... one year he can't tackle and gets benched..... one year he can't cover..... Green Bay let him go fairly easily as a free agent. Marshall has those great plays but overall is less than stellar as well.

And let's don't forget, ALL defensive backs get beat!!! I'm the first one to bitch about Lucas but do realize we don't have better options.

Let's pray for a good pass rush.... get healthy tackles, we'll need a push up the middle.

Just my .02

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 10:36 AM

I believe we can all get along here...... it's just a plain fact that our defensive backfield is fairly good "at best". Gamble is the best corner we have, in fact I'd think he's above average for the league. Lucas will have issues every year..... one year he can't tackle and gets benched..... one year he can't cover..... Green Bay let him go fairly easily as a free agent. Marshall has those great plays but overall is less than stellar as well.

And let's don't forget, ALL defensive backs get beat!!! I'm the first one to bitch about Lucas but do realize we don't have better options.

Let's pray for a good pass rush.... get healthy tackles, we'll need a push up the middle.

Just my .02


First of all I believe we got Lucas from the Seahawks. Gamble has improved a great deal this year primarily in his tackling. He has become a complete corner and as a result hasn't been targeted as much as Lucas during the second half of the season. I think Fox summed it up best after the Saints game. We have played some pretty good offenses during this stretch.

On being concerned about the defense giving up leads in recent weeks: What I'd say is that we've played the No. 1 offense, the No. 2 offense, the No. 4 offense, the No. 6 offense. When you come down the stretch with five games to finish the season -- at Green Bay, which is no box of chocolates, Monday Night Football against the Tampa Bay Bucs, the No. 2 offense in the NFL in Denver and you've got to go to the New York Giants -- the defending world champions -- and then you've got to go on the road and win, which hasn't been done this season in our (division). You go 4-1, and I'm not concerned with much.



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Posted 02 January 2009 - 11:13 AM

We have three players with 4 sacks a piece...that's good pressure no matter how you slice it. Tampa Bay has one of the worst pass rushes in the league, yet they allow only 188 yards through the air per game.

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 11:26 AM

We have three players with 4 sacks a piece...that's good pressure no matter how you slice it. Tampa Bay has one of the worst pass rushes in the league, yet they allow only 188 yards through the air per game.


188 through the air is misleading when teams can run all over them. No need to pass if the run is working.


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