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No long-term offer yet for Matt Moore

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That was Steve Hutchinson. He was a RFA in Seattle. Minnesota signed him to an offer sheet and added a clause that stated if he played two or three games in the state of Washington he would get millions in bonus money. It was too much for Seattle to swallow so he ended up in Minnesota.

Where in the world did you get your info on the poison pill?

There were two poison pills in Hutchinson's contract...but neither had anything do do with the number of games played in the state of Washington.

The poison pills were:

1. He was to be paid $13 million the first year

2. He had to be the highest paid lineman on the team. Which was impossible because Walter Jones was already making more money than the Vikings offered Hutchinson.

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Where in the world did you get your info on the poison pill?

There were two poison pills in Hutchinson's contract...but neither had anything do do with the number of games played in the state of Washington.

The poison pills were:

1. He was to be paid $13 million the first year

2. He had to be the highest paid lineman on the team. Which was impossible because Walter Jones was already making more money than the Vikings offered Hutchinson.

You're right. I got it backwards. I was thinking of Nate Burlesons deal. The Seahawks signed Burleson from Minnesota and put a poison pill in his contract as retaliation.

"The contract given to Burleson had two vengeful poison pill clauses in response to the contract offered to Hutchinson. Firstly, it stipulated that if Burleson were to play five or more games in the state of Minnesota during any single season over the life of the contract, the entire $49 million would become guaranteed"

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Not at the QB position. First round QBs get tens of millions in guaranteed money. At the very least we know Moore can play in the NFL. The Panthers would be idiotic to let him get away.

no i agree - we cannot let him walk but we cannot give him a big or long term deal

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1. If Moore had started the season in place of Picks Magee we'd have made the playoffs.

2. "Wait till teams have film on him" hasn't flown since his second start this season.

3. A team has a young QB who has won consistently against teams fighting for a playoff spot/higher seed and has never flat out lost a game on his own at this point. He has also racked up some pretty eye-popping stats during his limited chances. We NEED a QB. How many trade threads pop up on the huddle? (Hint: search for Kolb, Kevin)

4. We need to poo or get off the pot in regards to the QB position. Moore either is or isn't the answer. I think Fiz said it first, but we need to either move forward with Moore or get rid of him and upgrade. No reason to draft someone to groom and sit him behind a 25 year old promising QB who has limited opportunities at this point.

5. The longer we wait to offer a contract, the more he's going to cost us.

6. Delhomme is done. Get over it.

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A couple of things

1 - thats speculation

4 - agreed, we should not draft a QB with our #2

5 - yes it will cost us know but i would rather pay more for a sure thing then slightly less to a guy with very few games played

6 - yes its time to move on from delhomme, but he will still be here next year

1. If Moore had started the season in place of Picks Magee we'd have made the playoffs.

4. We need to poo or get off the pot in regards to the QB position. Moore either is or isn't the answer. I think Fiz said it first, but we need to either move forward with Moore or get rid of him and upgrade. No reason to draft someone to groom and sit him behind a 25 year old promising QB who has limited opportunities at this point.

5. The longer we wait to offer a contract, the more he's going to cost us.

6. Delhomme is done. Get over it.

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You're right. I got it backwards. I was thinking of Nate Burlesons deal. The Seahawks signed Burleson from Minnesota and put a poison pill in his contract as retaliation.

"The contract given to Burleson had two vengeful poison pill clauses in response to the contract offered to Hutchinson. Firstly, it stipulated that if Burleson were to play five or more games in the state of Minnesota during any single season over the life of the contract, the entire $49 million would become guaranteed"

lol good job seattle

that'll show minnesota

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1. If Moore had started the season in place of Picks Magee we'd have made the playoffs.

2. "Wait till teams have film on him" hasn't flown since his second start this season.

3. A team has a young QB who has won consistently against teams fighting for a playoff spot/higher seed and has never flat out lost a game on his own at this point. He has also racked up some pretty eye-popping stats during his limited chances. We NEED a QB. How many trade threads pop up on the huddle? (Hint: search for Kolb, Kevin)

4. We need to poo or get off the pot in regards to the QB position. Moore either is or isn't the answer. I think Fiz said it first, but we need to either move forward with Moore or get rid of him and upgrade. No reason to draft someone to groom and sit him behind a 25 year old promising QB who has limited opportunities at this point.

5. The longer we wait to offer a contract, the more he's going to cost us.

6. Delhomme is done. Get over it.

1. Quite possible

2. Matt Ryan looked really good his rookie year. Less so last year. Coordinators are lazy creatures sometimes. They wait for someone else to stumble on your weakness then they copy it.

3. Lets see how he handles the pressure of being " The Starter" first.

4. If Moore is our guy, we don't have to wait till the end of season to start contract talks.

5. Yes but if he is the man it's worth it to give him a bigger contract than a smaller contract that he will say he's outplayed later.

6. Yes.

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Thats what I keep telling people too. This news shouldnt come as a surprise at all. The panthers will do everything in their power to make sure jake is the starter and saving face with the fans at the same time. They'll claim its a "competition" and Jake won fair and sqaure. I bet they may even give the receivers money under the table to drop some passes from Moore.

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