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#1 rodeo

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 02:56 AM

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The mother of a 13-year-old Montgomery County middle school student is demanding an apology from a teacher who had school police escort the youngster from a classroom for refusing to say the Pledge of Allegiance.

The Supreme Court ruled in 1943 that students cannot be forced to salute the flag. Maryland law explicitly allows any student or teacher to be excused from participating in the pledge, according to the ACLU.

The incident began on a Wednesday in late January, when the girl did not stand for the pledge. Her teacher yelled at her, demanded that she stand and then sent her to the office for her defiance, Quereshi said. The school system confirmed the sequence of events.

The next morning, the girl again refused to stand for the pledge. This time, the teacher called two school police officers to the classroom to escort the girl to the office.

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 03:14 AM

I get it. It's illegal and she shouldn't be forced to, the teacher is insane, etc.

But seriously what a brat.

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 03:20 AM

good. all the greatest people in history were brats. this country was founded by brats.

she should be applauded. the pledge of allegiance is authoritarian propaganda that should be eliminated from schools altogether. it flies in the face of what the country was founded on.


it was written in 1892 by a socialist named Fancis Bellamy. this is the Bellamy Salute that accompanied it.
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Posted 25 February 2010 - 03:44 AM

Agree with the girl and with rodeo. Saying the pledge is un-american. No one should pledge allegiance to any republic. We are a nation of dissenters.

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 09:13 AM

............I'm always of mixed feelings about this. I mean, obviously the girl shouldn't have been steamrolled out of the classroom, but authoritarian propaganda? A nation of dissenters? Eh, I don't know.

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 09:29 AM

Proud graduate of Edward Bellamy Middle School. He was Francis' brother and wrote some cool books.

The Pledge was created out of a contest dreamed up by a company wanting to sell more flags to schools. In the 50's this little piece of advertising was hijacked by the religious right in order to get everyone on board with the idea that the Christian God was in charge against the Russkies.

Yet you would think that it was some holy poem invented by Thomas Jefferson himself.

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 09:30 AM

That being said I have no doubt that this girl was just wanting to stir the pot and the teacher needed to restore discipline to the classroom.

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 10:05 AM

That being said I have no doubt that this girl was just wanting to stir the pot and the teacher needed to restore discipline to the classroom.


Agree. I respect her right not to say the pledge. However, I am certain she was not voicing her policitcal position. She was being a pain in the ass and trying to cause trouble.

I am certain that they cannot force her to salute or say the pledge. Not sure if the whole standing thing is legit.

Can a teacher force a child to stand? I would think they could.

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 10:28 AM

That being said I have no doubt that this girl was just wanting to stir the pot and the teacher needed to restore discipline to the classroom.


their school handbook specifically prevents students from being embarrassed if they choose not to participate in any pledge, anthem, or patriotic exercise.

how are students to be expected to follow rules when the teachers don't? you can't restore discipline by breaking the law.

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 10:32 AM

Wow. The teacher has no right to make the kid say the pledge nor stand for the pledge.

This is coming from a guy who thinks forcing a haircut is a grey area.

Fire the teacher.