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#1 Matt Foley

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 01:40 PM

Over a year into his reign of terror, how do you feel about a) Barry or B) President Barack Obama? Explain your feelings.

I still don't like the man personally. I feel like when it comes to his arrogant side, I am like the guy in They Live who had the special sunglasses.

But I do hope he succeeds. I hope he makes decisions that keep our soldiers safe and encourage businesses to start hiring again. I really hope the Congress flips over in 2010 and both sides will have to work together instead of doing the Miser brothers routine.

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 01:41 PM

I like the guy. I think he generally believes he is working on behalf of the people, whether that is true or not, and whether the people generally have the right idea or not. If he maintains present course after losing seats in 2010, then I will be surprised.

Edited by Jase, 25 February 2010 - 01:46 PM.


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Posted 25 February 2010 - 01:45 PM

:leaving:

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 01:46 PM

he seems like a pretty cool guy. down to earth, funny, and interesting.

as a President he pretty much sucks so far. too concerned about what the opposition will think of him to do anything. had a supermajority but still wanted to compromise on everything. basically the anti-Bush.

#5 Matt Foley

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 01:48 PM

basically the anti-Bush.


Which is exactly why he got elected, wouldn't you agree?

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 01:48 PM

I'm taking the good with the bad right now.

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 01:50 PM

Which is exactly why he got elected, wouldn't you agree?


policy wise, yes. but i think if you asked people before the election if they would want the president to halt all of his plans in favor of bipartisanship, they would've said 'hell no, we'd rather have the change you promised.'

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 02:12 PM

I voted for Obama, and he still posses the same characteristics I liked when I voted for him...

Now policy wise I am very disappointed... He ran on the platform of change... changing how Washington and Capitol Hill works... Bringing Bi-partisanship to his administration...

Well it's mostly been democratic bullying from the administration... He did not reach out to the republicans... even from the begininng when he was appointing his cabinet it was the top democrat not the top politician... seemed like another Clinton Cabinet...

After the election I feel with public approval ratings as high as they were, people wanting change he could have ready made a effort to step out and say this is how we are going to do this... Yes it would have upset some democrats, and some republicans would have been hesitant... But they would have had no choice but to comply because they would be exposed to the nation for not accepting real change...

So I would give him a 6.5 out of 10.... He's doing a good job as a status quo president... fighting for what he believes well better Americans... However there is no real change and which means his platform was just more Washington rhetoric....

I guess I am the fool for actually believing in change. What the hell was I thinking?

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 02:28 PM

too concerned about what the opposition will think of him to do anything. had a supermajority but still wanted to compromise on everything. basically the anti-Bush.


Kind of why I don't mind him up there right now. He had congress so one sided in his favor he should have been able to push anything through and instead he spent over a year caving in to pressure, giving the opposition too much voice, apologizing and trying to install his legacy: healthcare. Oh, and he kept the promise of Iraq drawdown and went against a nice chunk of those who voted him in by sending a surge to Afgan. (proper move).

Now the 60-40 senate majority is gone and instead of putting his foot down and taking charge, it is still more compromises & discussions. Interesting. In the end it sounds like a federal govenment that I approve of....getting very little done. I kind of like it.

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 02:32 PM

While he isn't fuging things up anymore than they are he also isn't doing much of what he said. I want to see him get some stuff done.

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 02:39 PM

He's not "soft on terror", his policies are not "socialist", he's bent over backwards (too far IMHO) to appease the whiny right, and he will continue to work hard to try and get things done.

He's done an awful lot despite people telling you he is setting up "government run health care" (a lie), is going to take your guns (another lie), is going to tax you to death (95% of Americans paid less taxes this past year, yet only 6% of people think that), the stimulus didn't create any jobs (while the people who say that attend ribbon cutting ceremonies for stimulus projects), is soft on terrorism (see: recent Al Queida captures, Afganistan policy) and all the other bullshit.

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 02:45 PM

He's not "soft on terror", his policies are not "socialist", he's bent over backwards (too far IMHO) to appease the whiny right, and he will continue to work hard to try and get things done.

He's done an awful lot despite people telling you he is setting up "government run health care" (a lie), is going to take your guns (another lie), is going to tax you to death (95% of Americans paid less taxes this past year, yet only 6% of people think that), the stimulus didn't create any jobs (while the people who say that attend ribbon cutting ceremonies for stimulus projects), is soft on terrorism (see: recent Al Queida captures, Afganistan policy) and all the other bullpoo.


So he has bent over backwards for the whiny right? You actually believe what you post, don't you? Hello in there, Cliff. Cliff, what color is the sky in your world?

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 02:57 PM

Well lets see.

Health care: dropped public option, offered tort reform, lots of other things
Terrorism: Well I can't imagine what the right has to complain about
Tried to get the Republicans involved in everything he could, but they basically refuse to negotiate as the minority party, prefering to just say no and death panels and socialism and all that.

Yep, I believe what I post - look at what I wrote and tell me which part is wrong.

#14 Matt Foley

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 03:13 PM

Well lets see.

Health care: dropped public option KICKING AND SCREAMING, offered tort reform, lots of other things DROPPED GIVING IT TO ILLEGALS ONLY WHEN SPOTLIGHT PROVIDED BY "YOU LIE" GUY

Terrorism: Well I can't imagine what the right has to complain about SERIOUSLY? TRIED TO GET THE TRIAL HELD IN NEW YORK, TRIED TO SHUT DOWN GITMO, TRIED TO APPEASE THE ARAB WORLD BY SAYING IT'S ALL OUR FAULT YOU ATTACKED US

Tried to get the Republicans involved in everything he could HA HA HA HA HA
but they basically refuse to negotiate as the minority party (CATCHING BREATH....HA HA HA HA HA)
prefering to just say no and death panels and socialism and all that. (WHAT DO YOU CALL 'REDISTRIBUTION OF INCOME'?)

Yep, I believe what I post - look at what I wrote and tell me which part is wrong.


Wrong parts added in bold

#15 MadHatter

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 03:38 PM

Kind of why I don't mind him up there right now. He had congress so one sided in his favor he should have been able to push anything through and instead he spent over a year caving in to pressure, giving the opposition too much voice, apologizing and trying to install his legacy: healthcare. Oh, and he kept the promise of Iraq drawdown and went against a nice chunk of those who voted him in by sending a surge to Afgan. (proper move).

Now the 60-40 senate majority is gone and instead of putting his foot down and taking charge, it is still more compromises & discussions. Interesting. In the end it sounds like a federal govenment that I approve of....getting very little done. I kind of like it.



So you are saying that he should have pushed his agenda through even though now a majority of the public does not want his agenda.

More than 50% of America does not want a major reform of healthcare. They do not want a public option. They wan minor changes such as tort reform, removing state line restrictions on healthcare, and merely creating an exchange whereby people can shop multiple national carriers for competetive prices.

In short, America wants the same insurance option that the US Government has now. However, that is not what he is selling. And, the givernment employees will still retain their program even if Obamacare is passed.


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