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#1 Saint J

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Posted 27 February 2010 - 11:06 PM

1. Quit crying about Peppers. Yes, he was a great player and probably the most talented end of the past decade but he's also an asshole who picks his spots. Barring that he goes to ATL(God help you) I see him robbing some desperate team with shitty play. While you may not have anyone as talented as Peppers you have two young ends with a ton of potential with Chuck Johnson and Brown. Brayton is also a solid end at DE who may not be flashy but he gets it's done. Plus, he literally would kill to continue to be a Panther.

2. Quit the illusion that Jake has any chance at stealing back the starting spot. Name Moore the starter NOW, no WR worth a poo will give Carolina a look if there's even a remote possibility that the Panthers will play a QB who has those kind of problems upstairs.

3. Draft/Sign WRs. Smith has not had a decent threat besides him outside of a handful of years when Muhammed wasn't ancient. If you want Moore to have any shot at long term sucess he needs to be surrounded with weapons.

4. Draft a DT who can collapse the pocket. This has been a problem for the Panthers since Jenkins was traded and will continue to be unless something is done. Is there anything more frustrating than watching a QB step up and avoid pressure from your ends? This draft is deep with DTs, find one who can bring interior pressure.

5. Lock Thomas Davis up with an insane deal, he's been arguably your best defensive player for a few years now.

6. Move Dante Rosario to either WR or flat out commit to making him an integral part of the offense. I've seen him a lot since he was drafted and I have always noticed that he shows a ton of potential. Problem is, the Panthers historically have not utilized TEs for much more than blocking.

7. Move one of your two RBs for a high draft pick. Why? The Panthers offensive line is good enough to where any back with a pulse could have sucess behind it. Besides, RBs aren't really that valuable when you consider the length of their careers but shhh most teams haven't figured this out yet. Use the high pick to fill one of the needs listed above.



8. Kiss our ring.







I kid. :)

#2 Kevin Greene

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Posted 27 February 2010 - 11:14 PM

What's it like for your team to be a Super Bowl Champion?

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Posted 27 February 2010 - 11:14 PM

Thanks, I'll get on these things asap.

#4 Saint J

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Posted 27 February 2010 - 11:18 PM

What's it like for your team to be a Super Bowl Champion?


surreal

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Posted 27 February 2010 - 11:18 PM

8. Kiss our ring.


You all got one? :eek:

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Posted 27 February 2010 - 11:32 PM

agreed on most.. EXCEPT trading away one of our backs.

why trade away one of our only playmakers for a 2nd round pick at best?

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Posted 27 February 2010 - 11:42 PM

like i said, you guys probably have a top 5(at least) o-line in terms of run blocking. if you plug a decent back behind them they WILL have sucess. i know it would hurt to see one of your backs leave but at the end of the day i don't see a big drop off happening. also, if the reports that richardson won't spend much are true you need every pick you can get.

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Posted 27 February 2010 - 11:47 PM

I understand that but what's to say we don't draft a bust? then we just gave away one of our best players for nothing.

yeah I know our o-line is baller and any back could be successful behind it, but.. whenever Dwill or Stewie touches that ball there is a chance of a huge play, you can't say that about 'average' backs. I'll keep every offensive talent we've got :P

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Posted 28 February 2010 - 12:12 AM

2. Quit the illusion that Jake has any chance at stealing back the starting spot. Name Moore the starter NOW, no WR worth a poo will give Carolina a look if there's even a remote possibility that the Panthers will play a QB who has those kind of problems upstairs.


Matt won't be named the starter until AFTER negotiations are finished. That's why you don't see anyone rallying for Matt to be the starter or Fox/Hurney making a definitive stand on who is going to be the starter. For now it's all about getting Matt signed and if he's being talked about as the starter that will bring a much larger paycheck. I don't think Hurney or Fox can afford to commit to him if he turns out to be the next Derek Anderson.

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Posted 28 February 2010 - 12:31 AM

I'm not sure Peppers is going to tank on whomever gets him as a fresh start may actually energize him.

I hope your right about Jake but this is Fox we're talking about and the only reason Moore even got a chance was because Jake got hurt.

I'm not sure any of our young guys are #2 caliber so some competition at WR will be a good thing.

The DT problem is why our pass rush as been very average for years. QBs have a nice comfy pocket step up into almost all the time so tackles can cheat to keep our DEs from going inside and let them just rush behind the QB as he steps up.

Davis is my favorite player on defense and I'm in agreement with needing to lock him up. He's one of the most athletic LBers in the league and lays the wood.

The Rosario thing is the only one I'm inclined to disagree with. He is a good receiver but a bad blocker. Barnidge looks like just as much of a receiving threat and actually blocks at least acceptable.

I'm not real sure about trading D-Will. I think Stewart can replace him but it's nice having 2 studs. I would have to be blown away by an offer to consider it, top 15 pick at least.

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Posted 28 February 2010 - 12:34 AM

I understand that but what's to say we don't draft a bust? then we just gave away one of our best players for nothing.

yeah I know our o-line is baller and any back could be successful behind it, but.. whenever Dwill or Stewie touches that ball there is a chance of a huge play, you can't say that about 'average' backs. I'll keep every offensive talent we've got :P


the panthers have actually done really well with high draft picks.

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Posted 28 February 2010 - 12:40 AM

the panthers have actually done really well with high draft picks.


outstanding in the first round, MEH in the 2nd round. no one is going to give us a 1st rounder for either of our backs, the best we'd get is a 2nd rounder.

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Posted 28 February 2010 - 12:47 AM

I would honesty trade DeAngelo for Calvin Johnson.

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Posted 28 February 2010 - 02:13 AM

I wouldn't say Davis has been our best defensive player. He started to break out this past season because of our new scheme and looked to be on his way to a Pro-Bowl caliber season, but Beason has definitely been our best defensive player the past three years.

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Posted 28 February 2010 - 02:50 AM

Saint J 007 007, stop masquerading as a Saints fan on your front-running bandwagon, and come home. You know way too much. Take off your disguise, be a man, and admit that your true affections are for the Panthers. Either that, or continue to be a double agent troll.




Anyway, I am not too sure about Moore and absolutely have been unsure about Delhomme since before the Huddle. Moreover, more importantly, the histroy of our FO says that Delhomme will be the guy. What do ou think that they are going to do, drop him after Moore is signed? They Jedi Mind-tricked themselves into giving him a 20 million dollar extension. You think that they are just going to leave that on the bench? They must have been smoking some good stuff during those negotiations. Either that, or they got a hold of some bad Gumbo.

In reference to Davis, we will probably be virtually forced to re-sign him for big money notwithstanding whether his injury will profoundly affect his play.
Don't get me wrong, I am his fellow Georgia alum, but I just hope he can jump in the game where he left off. Truthfully, he hasn't been our best player
for the last couple of years---that would be Jon Beason---but he was well on his way to being that guy last year.

Yes, I am a believer in Charles Johnson (another fellow Bulldog). It's his time to shine, and I think he can do it. Speaking of Johnson and Davis, the Panthers must have a scout with an affinity for the Georgia Bulldogs. Corvey Irvin may be that DT that we need in another season. I believe that he is Ron Meeks' kind of guy. Moreover, personally, I wouldn't mind us drafting Geno Atkins and/or Rennie Curran (if Curran is still available i the third). I believe that Curran has the same type of drive and motor of Thomas Davis, after all is said and done. Atkins is another billed as "undersized", but the guy has potential and value as well (and should be available).

Some in the Huddle keep talking about Gary Barnidge as having more upside than Dante Rosario, but I am with you. Rotoworld had a take on Rosario last year which basically said that Rosario would be a top five TE if the Panthers would maximize his opportunities, and I have always agreed with that analysis. He may not be an elite blocker, but he has made great strides. don't get me wrong, Barnidge has upside also, but I still don't believe he is as athletic as Rosario. I think that we will be alright either way, provided that
Fox and the OC get smart (uh-oh).

Anyway, take your brass imitation of your Super Bowl ring and throw it in Lake Pontchartrain. It ain't worth the bill that you paid for it in that Circle K parking lot.


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