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#31 Lout

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 05:03 PM

I AM, you are forgetting about CJ Wilson, he was tendered. He isn't much more than a warm body, but he is still on the roster. So assuming Richard Marshall get's a contract from another team, and we match it, we will still have 4 CBs. We only lost Dante Wesley, so when you look at it that way, CB is not that great of a need.. we are just replacing Dante Wesley from last year's group.

OLB and WR and DE are definitely our biggest needs still.

Edited by Lout, 05 March 2010 - 05:05 PM.


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Posted 05 March 2010 - 05:28 PM

chbright, i think you will be dissappointed when we don't take a DT in this years draft. We already have 6 DTs under contract. The signing of Ed Johnson ensured that we do not take one in the draft.. we have too many holes to fill.

Louis Leonard
Tank Tyler
Ed Johnson
Corvey Irvin
Nick Hayden
Derek Landri


I still think we will take a DT...because on that list I only see 1 true NT.

#33 Lout

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 05:35 PM

I still think we will take a DT...because on that list I only see 1 true NT.


I see 3 guys that have played NT in the NFL..

Leonard, Tyler, and Johnson. Ed Johnson played NT for the Colts his entire rookie season. Tyler almost won the job in KC for the NT position ins a 3-4! That really says something.. and Leonard is the one true NT you were referring to.

#34 scpanther22

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 05:42 PM

I see 3 guys that have played NT in the NFL..

Leonard, Tyler, and Johnson. Ed Johnson played NT for the Colts his entire rookie season. Tyler almost won the job in KC for the NT position ins a 3-4! That really says something.. and Leonard is the one true NT you were referring to.


they were out of place.Tyler played the NT in KC 34 and then got demoted.And you dont have to be "NT" to be NT for the colts..lol

#35 Lout

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 05:56 PM

they were out of place.Tyler played the NT in KC 34 and then got demoted.And you dont have to be "NT" to be NT for the colts..lol


You forget that we have the colts DC from that season.. so you are laughing at us, because I guarantee that's where we intend to play him.

Tyler did get demoted, but his strength is playing the run. Anybody know where Tyler played on our line before he got injured? I will tell you it was NT.

Edited by Lout, 05 March 2010 - 05:59 PM.


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Posted 05 March 2010 - 06:25 PM

You forget that we have the colts DC from that season.. so you are laughing at us, because I guarantee that's where we intend to play him.

Tyler did get demoted, but his strength is playing the run. Anybody know where Tyler played on our line before he got injured? I will tell you it was NT.


But we dont have their old HC.Tyler played both spots.And your right his strength is the run.(never had a sack)...and IDK about Johnsons weight he came into the league at 296 but reports were he was up to 315.I still think we need a DT.

#37 Lout

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 06:31 PM

But we dont have their old HC.Tyler played both spots.And your right his strength is the run.(never had a sack)...and IDK about Johnsons weight he came into the league at 296 but reports were he was up to 315.I still think we need a DT.


Do you still think we need a NT? Or a DT? I would like a 1 gap penetrator, but I don't think the Panthers will take one.

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 06:48 PM

Do you still think we need a NT? Or a DT? I would like a 1 gap penetrator, but I don't think the Panthers will take one.


at this point..IDK what the panthers are thinking.:frown2:

I think we could use more push inside..like Hurney said.I would like a guy like lamarr houston

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 08:24 PM

FFS, just because we signed guys doesn't mean they're good enough as starters. Sometimes, all you need to do is look at the stats. We were 23rd in the league in sacks last year, that's already below average. We are now losing our best player on the D-line by any standards. No matter who we replace him with, I'm sure that the new guy won't demand double teams like pep did. If you think that D-line isn't a major need coming into this draft, you're arguing that the likes of Hayden, Johnson and Brown will all step up BIG TIME and be above average starters in the nfl. That is a slippery slope of speculation.

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 09:53 PM

i think leonard and tyler are the starters a DT... with irvin as depth. still room to add one or two... but i think the pass rush from DE is most critical. we need to pressure the QB. brown showed flashes but peppers he is not.


You are forgetting about Ed Johnson...Meeks guy who played very well as a rookie.

#41 Rononoa3000

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 10:50 PM

Must get a WR.

Gilyard
(Resign Brayton) Pass Rushing DE
LB depth
QB depth
OL depth

*Draft NO DT*
FA DT only.

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 01:21 PM

FFS, just because we signed guys doesn't mean they're good enough as starters. Sometimes, all you need to do is look at the stats. We were 23rd in the league in sacks last year, that's already below average. We are now losing our best player on the D-line by any standards. No matter who we replace him with, I'm sure that the new guy won't demand double teams like pep did. If you think that D-line isn't a major need coming into this draft, you're arguing that the likes of Hayden, Johnson and Brown will all step up BIG TIME and be above average starters in the nfl. That is a slippery slope of speculation.


I am not saying the dline as a whole isn't a major need.. just not DT. DE is a major need and that is where most of the sacks come from..

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 01:32 PM

I still dont see how anyone can say DT is not a need

93 Tyler, Tank DT
61 Landri, Derek DT
94 Leonard, Louis DT
Johnson, Ed DT
60 Irvin, Corvey DT
98 Hayden, Nick DT
This is our DT.yeah.I think we need to add a guy.who can give us some pass rush.

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 01:49 PM

How many starts are on that list? If don't include Hayden, because I don't think he deserves to be even on our roster, it looks even worse. Not much experience anywhere on our dline. Thats all that worries me.

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 02:10 PM

How many starts are on that list? If don't include Hayden, because I don't think he deserves to be even on our roster, it looks even worse. Not much experience anywhere on our dline. Thats all that worries me.


With the departures of defensive tackles Hollis Thomas, and Damione Lewis, the Panthers have six defensive tackles with a total combined four starts…That’s the scary part.

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