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Good! Like Fiz was saying it's about time players step up and play like their jobs depend on it!

This is what other perennial competitive franchises do. The Panthers have tried to imitate these franchises since their inception with mixed results. It's time to go all out and see if we can string together back to back winning seasons, then maybe a Super Bowl down the line.

no, other perennial franchises do not do what they are doing. they have a deliberate approach to fa AND the draft. they get key fa and draft well. they dont HAVE to dump all vets to make up for past mistakes. i mean really how much money do we need? peps contract is gone and we played with his numbers on the cap for the last couple of years, so why all the cap cutting now? one reason salary dump in a uncapped year.

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Agreed. Last year, there were numerous critical posts about how loyal the FO is to vetrans, how it needed to be changed. Now when they do , there are numerous critical posts how its too much.

You can't have it both ways.

yes you actually can! it is call a happy medium, kinda what good franchises do. why cant there be a middle road?

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no, other perennial franchises do not do what they are doing. they have a deliberate approach to fa AND the draft. they get key fa and draft well. they dont HAVE to dump all vets to make up for past mistakes. i mean really how much money do we need? peps contract is gone and we played with his numbers on the cap for the last couple of years, so why all the cap cutting now? one reason salary dump in a uncapped year.

There is one difference to comparing this to the past. With a salary cap, team's have to me mythodical in determining when and how to get rid of higher priced marginal players.....as there are cap hits.

This season, you can do it without suffering the Cap Consequences.

JR is setting the franchise up for long-term success.

And, I think the product on the field this year will surpass what we saw this past season.

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of course, so everyone relax.

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I guess the critics preferred we cut these loose ends in training camp..where we wouldn't have time to get any good replacements in for them..most of these guys were not worth the contract they had, and hoover's back may also have been a bigger issue in his departure as well..

Our FO was able to find depth at the DT end last year when we had next to none at the beginning...they know how to wheel and deal to fill the holes left open..

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of course, so everyone relax.

Good luck on that front :sosp:

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People on here for years have been begging for the Panthers to become the team that values production over sentimental value. A team that identifies their core players and ruthlessly deals with the rest. A team like the New England patriots who value youth, budget, and versatility above all the lovey dovery crap.

Well guess what? It's happened. Really really f**king quick.

For years this was the team that would depend on Dan Morgan when he had a bowl of instant oatmeal for a brain. Deshaun Foster when he was nothing but a toe tag. Mike Rucker when he literally had one leg. If minter hadn't retired he would have been wheeled out there. Lucas, Colbert, everyone and everything associated with Danny Crossman, Jake, Stephen Davis for a time, the list goes on and on.

Not anymore.

None of the players lost besides Julius Peppers aren't quickly replaced by people already on the roster. Just because you loved Brad Hoover doesn't mean he was healthy all of last year and was easily replaced by Tyrell Sutton, who can actually gain more than 2 yards at a time if he's ever needed to run.

Yeah, Diggs was solid, but so was Anderson last year, and it's time to see if Connor can play.

Yeah, Lewis was a gold mine, but so was Louis Leonard, and Corvey Irvin is ready to contribute.

Yeah, Brayton exceeded all expectations, but so has Charles Johnson whenever he's been in the game, and Tyler wanted a big contract.

Yeah, Jake took us to a Super Bowl when most of you people started acknowledging the team existed, but contract or not, that motherf**ker had to go.

Of course the players are going to be shocked. They've grown accustomed to Charlotte being a place where they could ease into retirement, knowing they'd always have a guaranteed paycheck, and in the case of jake and deshaun, a farewell contract they had no business getting.

i like this much better.

WE'RE NOT HAVING A FIRE.........sale

Fiz, I have to say something.

You are absolutely right.

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yes you actually can! it is call a happy medium, kinda what good franchises do. why cant there be a middle road?

So what have they done that has been so extreme?

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It's too bad that this FO kept trying to find diamonds in the rough, and then kept most a year or two too long that they had to be released instead of trying to get some trade value players. But this is what being cheap and sentimentality gets you.

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My God. I'm agreeing with Fiz and Zod on this stuff. I think I need a drink.

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The front office tough talk is called 2010/2011. The owners have alot of leverage and are trying to scare the players into thinking there will be a lockout.

But if the players were smart they would ride it out. The individual players only need to worry about themselves and their familes. The owners have to worry about EVERY players contract, stadium deals, taxes, marketing yada yada.

While you are correct about the stadiums and such, the players will have voided the contracts all monies for the 2011 season if they strike.

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