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Understanding the NFL, NFLPA, CBA and the Lockout Year


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#16 Mesmer

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 02:50 AM

The one thing for sure about a lockout year? I can promise you that David Stern and Gary Bettman are praying for it lol.

The NFL is a monster, and it would be very interesting (shitty, absolutely losing nfl football for even just a year would suck) to see what happens if this were to go into effect.

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 07:55 AM

what i dont understand is how can the owners opt out their contract early without any punishment.antiono gates said the same thing in usa today last week.



Because both sides agreed to this under the old CBA. The players signed up for this...they just did not expect it to happen.

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 07:56 AM

ok. here goes. when he said scrubs he was talking about players coming in after the lockout for owner to satisfy there tv contracts. i for one will be trying out for the defensive back or safety. :D



this is not the movie "The Replacements".

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 07:59 AM

this is not the movie "The Replacements".


wouldnt it be awesome though!!!!:D

i was actually explaining to les grosman why i said he lacked reading comprehension.

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 08:02 AM

wouldnt it be awesome though!!!!:D

i was actually explaining to les grosman why i said he lacked reading comprehension.


I would rather have no football....and not have to pay for my season tickets.

I would hate to pay full price for season tickets and watch replacement players.

Just my opinion.

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 08:17 AM

Scrub Counter = 1


When he said scrubs, he meant people from minor football leagues and people off the street playing in place of the people in the NFL now.

But, I'm guessing you knew that...?

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 08:36 AM

I would rather have no football....and not have to pay for my season tickets.

I would hate to pay full price for season tickets and watch replacement players.

Just my opinion.


if jr called you up what position would you play?

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 08:36 AM

When he said scrubs, he meant people from minor football leagues and people off the street playing in place of the people in the NFL now.

But, I'm guessing you knew that...?


i tried to explain that to him, hence the crack about reading comprehension.

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 08:41 AM

if jr called you up what position would you play?


Waterboy....Waterboy.

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 08:48 AM

Great additional info P55! I was only coming from the standpoint of what is seen as legal. Like you said, the NFL and the owners are one in the same but legally...Actually, there are several court cases across the country that pending of the outcome could change the way the government views the NFL as a non-profit organization.

And you are correct, the third option for the players would be to decertify but really that would be the same as striking as it still would mean no games until a new CBA is worked out. The only think I disagree with you on is the TV contracts. The way I read it says that the money would be paid back if there were no games. Putting games on with scrubs would still allow the owners to keep that money and as I said in the OP the networks would then have to go after the players to get money back. Very complicated stuff but if the owners get paid that money then why would a owner have to have a fire sale when he is going to make money in 2011 no matter what?

But honestly, thanks for adding all of that info. I was just seeing too many people making comments that showed they had no idea what was really going on. I don't care if we (me and you) disagree on finer points but there needs to be a basic understanding first.

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 08:50 AM

Well done mpf.


Thanks, Ladypanther!

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 10:03 AM

Great work guy's. Interesting read.