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#31 Sloth

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Posted 15 March 2010 - 02:13 PM

Why save picks for a lockout year? How many underclassmen are going to holdout for 2012?

We've cleared a ton of cap room if we get a new coach he'll be able to bring in a lot of his old favorites with our cap room.

I think we are very likely to trade our first or trade down into the 3rd(or do both!). It all depends on the CBA and JR.


This is actually a really good point. I've been whining about not trading our first again, but 2011 is probably going to be a miserable draft.

Value for our 2011 first will probably be even lower than before though.

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Posted 15 March 2010 - 02:35 PM

I'd take just a 2nd or a low 2nd low 4th.

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Posted 15 March 2010 - 03:02 PM

I'm still not sold on "Bay Bay"...

He's fuging stiff as hell, and played in an offense that benefits WRs...

I'd prefer Tate and Gilyard over him, and this draft is pretty solid from a WR standpoint... Andre Roberts is more of our style guy too...


Yes I know that triple option really focuses on those receivers... Wait what.

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Posted 15 March 2010 - 03:08 PM

Why save picks for a lockout year? How many underclassmen are going to holdout for 2012?

We've cleared a ton of cap room if we get a new coach he'll be able to bring in a lot of his old favorites with our cap room.

I think we are very likely to trade our first or trade down into the 3rd(or do both!). It all depends on the CBA and JR.


I agree. Why save picks for a lockout year? But, you are also not thinking about the other team we would be trading with.. "Why give up this year's pick, for a pick next year that won't be worth anything?".. what team in their right mind would do that?

So like I said before, we won't be trading our 1st round pick this season for the exact reason you just mentioned.. no team will accept good picks for bad picks.

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Posted 15 March 2010 - 03:17 PM

Minnesota WR Eric Decker reportedly had the best Wonderlic score of any player at February's Combine, getting 43-of-50 questions correct.

Decker couldn't run coming off Lisfranc surgery, so he tore up the written test instead. While intelligence won't suddenly make him healthy or a better prospect, he at least managed to capitalize on what he was able to do.

http://www.rotoworld...ort=NFL&id=5819

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Posted 15 March 2010 - 03:17 PM

I agree. Why save picks for a lockout year? But, you are also not thinking about the other team we would be trading with.. "Why give up this year's pick, for a pick next year that won't be worth anything?".. what team in their right mind would do that?

So like I said before, we won't be trading our 1st round pick this season for the exact reason you just mentioned.. no team will accept good picks for bad picks.


Which is why if we can we should make an offer Marshall and offer our 1st next year. No player in this and most likely next years draft will be what Marshall has already shown he can do. And no player we can get anywhere else could have the impact on our team as him.

A lot of players that go in the 1st round have character concerns and yet they are still drafted there not even knowing if there play even translates to the NFL. I think JR can at least give us one thing to get excited about and I can think of no better.

Think of how much of a nightmare it would be for D coor. to gameplan against us. The best Possession receiver in the league on one side and still one of the best playmaking WR on the other. And the biggest threat of a backfield in the NFL IMO. And Moore to tie it all together. Gives me goosebumps.

Edited by jramsey4, 15 March 2010 - 03:24 PM.


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Posted 15 March 2010 - 03:44 PM

Which is why if we can we should make an offer Marshall and offer our 1st next year. No player in this and most likely next years draft will be what Marshall has already shown he can do. And no player we can get anywhere else could have the impact on our team as him.

A lot of players that go in the 1st round have character concerns and yet they are still drafted there not even knowing if there play even translates to the NFL. I think JR can at least give us one thing to get excited about and I can think of no better.

Think of how much of a nightmare it would be for D coor. to gameplan against us. The best Possession receiver in the league on one side and still one of the best playmaking WR on the other. And the biggest threat of a backfield in the NFL IMO. And Moore to tie it all together. Gives me goosebumps.


I doubt the Bronco's would accept a 1st rounder from the 2011 draft.. there is a chance they could give up Marshall for nothing if they did that.

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Posted 15 March 2010 - 04:07 PM

I doubt the Bronco's would accept a 1st rounder from the 2011 draft.. there is a chance they could give up Marshall for nothing if they did that.


It wouldn't be nothing. A draft will still be held. If theres a holdout I could see all the underclassman staying in school however so it wouldn't be as deep. The Raiders gave the Pats a 1st from 2011 for Seymour. If they don't get an offer for a 1st this year they might.

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Posted 15 March 2010 - 04:27 PM

Yes I know that triple option really focuses on those receivers... Wait what.


It allows WRs to get open easier, and not have to run crisp routes...

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Posted 15 March 2010 - 04:41 PM

It allows WRs to get open easier, and not have to run crisp routes...


They might be able to get open easier, but they get way way less opportunities than a RB. Bay Bay did an incredible job with amount of opportunities he got..

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Posted 15 March 2010 - 05:04 PM

I agree. Why save picks for a lockout year? But, you are also not thinking about the other team we would be trading with.. "Why give up this year's pick, for a pick next year that won't be worth anything?".. what team in their right mind would do that?

So like I said before, we won't be trading our 1st round pick this season for the exact reason you just mentioned.. no team will accept good picks for bad picks.


I think a team would still trade a 2nd or a low 2nd low 4th for one. If you look at some of the player trades it seems like a 2011 1st = 2010 2nd.

The pick isn't "bad" necessarily it's just worth less. So the team who trades will give up less. Maybe just trade straight up for a 2nd or a 2nd and 6th.

It doesn't make any sense to me to save picks for a year in which no football will be played. Coaches rely more on FA in their first year to stabilize the team with vets from a simmilar system. It makes sense to trade because you could end up being rewarded if there is a new CBA. Also having two 1st's in a shallow draft puts you in way better position than the other teams in the leauge.

Keep in mind we're going to look like geniuses in 2011/2012(even if we suck in 2010) with our extremely low cap figure. Who needs a 1st when you can buy up whoever you want?

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Posted 15 March 2010 - 06:05 PM

They might be able to get open easier, but they get way way less opportunities than a RB. Bay Bay did an incredible job with amount of opportunities he got..


Calvin Johnson?

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Posted 15 March 2010 - 07:11 PM

Calvin Johnson?


Wasn't the triple option with Johnson.

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Posted 15 March 2010 - 09:24 PM

I am hope we look at eric decker in the later rounds..

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Posted 16 March 2010 - 06:48 AM

Taken straight from one of the many draft scouting sites and magazines I frequent this time of year:

Thomas played in an offense that did not require him to run pro-style routes, and featured a heavy dose of simple deep routes


As I said, his offense did not cater to making a great WR out of him. He plays stiff as hell, and relies mostly on outpositioning the defender when the ball is in the air...

That said, I agree, he did a great job with what he was given. He should be a decent pro, but isn't the type of WR our offense needs... We need someone to stretch the field, run crisp routes, and be able to get open to take the pressure off Smitty... He may have run deep routes in college, but NFL DBs will eat him alive on those in the pros... Plus, he's coming off a broken foot, which should be a red flag to anyone who believes he doesn't run great routes in the first place...

Will I be upset if we draft him? No... but I think it will be the wrong choice and you'll all be screaming Keary Colbert by the time his tenure with the Panthers is up...


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