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Steve Smith or Larry Fitzgerald

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Posted in this discussion elsewhere...

We've had this discussion before, and I'll repeat my thoughts again.

When comparing two players, one of the first things I look to see is whether either one does something that the other can't do.

Fitzgerald is a great receiver; good routes, great hands, uses his body well, all of that. Buuut you could say all of those things about Steve Smith too.

Smith also is capable of taking a short pass, a reverse or a direct snap and turning them into huge gains with his speed and elusiveness. Fitzgerald, as good a receiver as he is, doesn't really have that element in his game.

(and that's not even figuring in the special teams aspect)

So for that reason, I take Steve Smith. No homerism involved, just logic.

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How does he not have better numbers

Rk Player Team Pos Rec Yds Avg Yds/G Lng TD 20+ 40+ 1st 1st% FUM

Larry Fitzgerald ARI WR 96 1,431 14.9 89.4 78T 12 20 5 66 68.8 1

Steve Smith CAR WR 78 1,421 18.2 101.5 65T 6 23 6 59 75.6 1

Looks loke more yards twice the td same amount of fumbles. mind you we have another pro bowl wide out stealing someof his numberson the other side named Boldin. You may have heard of him

Fitzgerald is on a pass-happy team and played a full season. Smith is on a run-happy team and was suspened for 2 games and yet he pretty much equaled Fitgerald in total yards with 2 less games and a lot less receptions.

Also as far as touchdowns go, I have had a pet peeve with this all season.

Steve is showing that he CAN indeed keep his temper in check, because in all honesty, almost HALF of D'Will's touchdowns are chip shots thanks to Smith getting us all the way down the field in the red zone, with Williams punching it in for the go ahead TD.

I honestly lost track of how many times after a big play from Steve, we are in the red zone and we hand the ball to Williams for the touchdown, when if we had some more balls and faith in Delhomme, we should at least given Steve the opportunity on one of the downs for the TD.

Seriously, Steve has kind of been sacrificed in that respect and it's thanks to him that Williams numbers look so good. But let's be honest, THEY were not all EARNED by Williams. Steve had just as much to do with his TD's as did Williams.

In short Smith has been short-changed this season, and it seems he's been pretty good about it. Had it been someone like TO, you wouldn't hear the end of it.

So in reality, had you actually watched every Panthers game this season, you would know that unofficially Smith could have EASILY had something like 18TD by now. Unfortunatelly for him he will have to wait until we either have more faith in Delhomme next year, or get another QB, which probably won't happen until Smith is past his prime.

PS: Don't get me wrong Panther Fans, I love Delhomme, I just wonder sometimes what Steve's numbers would have been like had we had an Elite QB like Manning or Brady, or had he himself been on a team like the Pats or Colts. His career numbers would have no doubt been a lot more impressive.

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"Fitzgerald is on a pass-happy team and played a full season."

Come on man, Fitz has been crazy good his whole career, it's not like this was just an abomination, a "break-out year".

For me it's an irrelevant toss up. It's like asking if I could have a night with this miss-universe girl or that one... I really dont think you can lose either way. lol :)

I have seen Steve Smith burn the Cardinals deep far too many times to say that anyone is better than him. Honestly I would put them both one or two notches above everyone else in the league and as far as who's better? I dont think I know enough about anything to make that decision.

I do know that Fitz was still wowing the league when he had Josh McCown (who?) and Matt Leinart throwing to him, but Smith has had Delhomme pretty much his whole career. (I've seen quite a few posts on your board that were pretty harsh towards Jake, do your fans not like him? Honestly I've always respected him from what I've seen and thought he's a pretty dang good QB.. You guys did go to the SuperBowl right?)

My gut feeling is that Fitz is better prior to the catch, and Smith is far and away better after the catch.

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why is this even a debate? ok both are great at WR but this is where smitty trumps fitz, smitty is faster, can be and has been a punt returner(remember that nfc championship game at he seahawks?) smith is a better blocker(remember that bloc vs the bucs on MNF?) finally smith is the best clutch WR in the league, period!!!!!! not T.O, moss, fitz burress, ward or anybody else, when its clutch time its steve smith time panther fans know that everybody knows that. how many times has he bailed us out and wowed us at the same time?

Now if im starting a franchise(that was the question this thread asked) i would go with fitz simply coz of his age but not bcoz he is better that smith

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If you are starting a franshise and you have the option of Fitz or Smitty then you as the GM and Coach should have a huge smile on your face.

Andre Johnson should be in this discusion as well as Randy Moss.

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If age was even then Steve Smith, if we are talking about right now, then Fitzgerald

What he said

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True but your not taking into account he is the only wideout worth a darn on your team so of course he is going to have the most yards. We split the ball accross 3 1000 yard receivers 2 of which are in the pro bowl.

Listen Steve is an unbelievable wide out and is deffinatly top 5 but every person in the media/coaches/players state Fitz is the best in the league.

I agree fitzgerald is a beast but the reason for 3 1000 yard recievers is cause ure running game is garbage...Moose had 900 yards this season and our running backs had approxx 2500 yards...thats not a real good comparison ...But I think its verry close and Since Ive been a panthers fan since I was a day old I might be a little biased!!

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Didn't Fitz just get a restraining order for beating his wife?

and also, who is better in the open field with the ball?

-- give me Smitty. I would take heart over ability any day.

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I agree fitzgerald is a beast but the reason for 3 1000 yard recievers is cause ure running game is garbage...Moose had 900 yards this season and our running backs had approxx 2500 yards...thats not a real good comparison ...But I think its verry close and Since Ive been a panthers fan since I was a day old I might be a little biased!!

Very true and I assure you I am biased in my beliefs too. Shoot I wouldn't have a problem with Smith on my team. Hell I will trade you Bolden for him right now. You think we can work that out :)

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Since Ive been a panthers fan since I was a day old I might be a little biased!!

is that so...

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is that so...

YES LOL I knew Iwould Love a team called the panthers 14 years from that day!!:sifone:

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