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#1 DevilCat

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 11:23 AM

AFMB- Posters are saying the Cards were reading Ryan's snap count. I must say the Cards seemed to be in the Falcon backfield on more than one play. Just wondering if it was just Ryan being a rookie and wide eyed with his first playoff game, or with film study they could do the same against us?:eek:

#2 Inimicus

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 11:30 AM

On the road with a rookie QB and in playoff conditions I would guess that the Falcons were not doing much to vary their snap count. Probably just going on the same sound all day.

#3 Delhommey

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 11:32 AM

If you're concerned, I'm pretty sure Jake's a little saltier than Ryan.

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 11:33 AM

If you're concerned, I'm pretty sure Jake's a little saltier than Ryan.


...and this is a home game.

#5 Pumpkin Eater

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 11:35 AM

Fox will be intelligent enough to make sure it's not an issue.

#6 goodoleboy

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 11:39 AM

AFMB- Posters are pretty much dumbasses. What they are seeing is the advantage of crowd noise on a D lines burst off the ball.

#7 DevilCat

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 11:42 AM

I guess it's pre-game jitters... I'm sure Jake is well versed in changing up the count compared to "Ice Man"

#8 Mr. Scot

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 12:06 PM

Story was that Dan Henning almost always had the offense running the same snap count.

(falls under the 'forget fooling them, just run over them' category)

True? Don't know, but if so I seriously doubt it's still in effect.

#9 neverlosethefeeling

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 12:08 PM

So you're trying to tell me a professional football team was going on the same snap count all the time?

Get real.

#10 Mr. Scot

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 12:09 PM

Similar deal: In the 03 Cowboy game, Buckner caught on to Quincy Carter tipping the snap count (something he did with his hands, if I remember right) and the Panthers D-Line used it against the Cowboys offense all game.

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 12:13 PM

Similar deal: In the 03 Cowboy game, Buckner caught on to Quincy Carter tipping the snap count (something he did with his hands, if I remember right) and the Panthers D-Line used it against the Cowboys offense all game.


That I can believe...but no one will tell me a pro football team was going on one/two/first sound the whole time.

#12 Mr. Scot

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 12:23 PM

So you're trying to tell me a professional football team was going on the same snap count all the time?

Get real.

The story was reported after Henning's firing (Observer, I think). Whether it's true or not, I don't know. The Panthers are fairly tight-lipped and don't like to bad mouth anyone, even guys they've let go, so I doubt they'd confirm it.

Watching the way Henning ran the offense when he was here, I have to admit it sounds at least somewhat plausible.

#13 rainwater

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 12:31 PM

The Cards definitely saw something about how Ryan snapped the ball to get a jump on. It wasn't all because of crowd noise. Several times the ends jumped offsides right as the ball was being snapped. They clearly weren't doing this because of crowd noise. They saw something.

However, my biggest beef was the defensive tackle lined up off sides on every single freaking play and not once did the refs call him on it.

#14 CosmoGirl

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 12:35 PM

The story was reported after Henning's firing (Observer, I think). Whether it's true or not, I don't know. The Panthers are fairly tight-lipped and don't like to bad mouth anyone, even guys they've let go, so I doubt they'd confirm it.

Watching the way Henning ran the offense when he was here, I have to admit it sounds at least somewhat plausible.


I remember that as well.

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 12:51 PM

I have read that AZ noticed Ryan leans back a little or something of that nature in anticipation of the snap.


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