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#76 pantherdad

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 08:49 AM

It's because Christians are -- and should be -- held to a higher standard than the rest of society. If you profess to be a follower of Christ, then you've got to live by those teachings every day. Of course, that's an incredibly hard thing to do -- but you certainly can't just routinely go to church every Sunday and then act like an asshole the rest of the week. This is why I was at one point so disgusted with Christianity.

Then I realized I didn't have any hate for the religion, just the hypocrites whose actions didn't coincide with their beliefs.


Thats the hardest thing to do.....walking the walk. i mean, its a struggle everyday, but i try to do my best. not just in christianity, but probably in ALL religions. i will probably never live up to my own standards, but i'm cool with that because i know i atleast try......i'm sure each religion has its own ups and downs....its hard to keep the faith hanging around people from the huddle.......lol ;)

Edited by pantherdad, 25 March 2010 - 08:57 AM.


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Posted 25 March 2010 - 09:49 AM

2 Kings 2:23-24:

And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.

And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 10:04 AM

shut the fug up

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 10:04 AM

Truth? lol... TRUTH?

I guess truth is subjective now...

Please, show me one thing ever penned by Jesus' hands...

How 'bout the truth that this story was apparently made up? (PFT)

I don't want The Golden Calf of Bristol on the Panthers, but the story sounded fishy when I heard it. Now The Golden Calf of Bristol himself says that he said no such thing and gave names of other people who were in the room that can back him up.

And honestly, while I'm not a Florio basher, it wouldn't be the first time something untrue made it onto his page.

Edited by Mr Scot, 25 March 2010 - 10:07 AM.


#80 Samuel L. Jackson

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 10:08 AM

How 'bout the truth that this story was apparently made up? (PFT)


I was referring to scpanther22's response about his signature...

I don't care if the The Golden Calf of Bristol thing is madeup or not, as I made my point about athletes thanking higher powers in general...

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 10:12 AM

I was referring to scpanther22's response about his signature...

I don't care if the The Golden Calf of Bristol thing is madeup or not, as I made my point about athletes thanking higher powers in general...

About that, what's the big deal? You act like it somehow hurts you.

I don't care if a guy rolls out a Muslim prayer rug on the sideline. So what?

Some guys thank God. Some guys thank their moms. Some guys thank themselves. Freddie Mitchell thanked his hands.

Heck, I see UFC fighters thank Jesus after bashing a guy's brains in. I find it odd, but it's not like it hurts me.

How does any of this affect you or me to the point it's such a big deal?

Edited by Mr Scot, 25 March 2010 - 10:17 AM.


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Posted 25 March 2010 - 10:52 AM

About that, what's the big deal? You act like it somehow hurts you.

I don't care if a guy rolls out a Muslim prayer rug on the sideline. So what?

Some guys thank God. Some guys thank their moms. Some guys thank themselves. Freddie Mitchell thanked his hands.

Heck, I see UFC fighters thank Jesus after bashing a guy's brains in. I find it odd, but it's not like it hurts me.

How does any of this affect you or me to the point it's such a big deal?


I don't think it "hurts" me as much as it amuses me... I see it as my duty to try and wake people the fug up to their own absurd belief system.... sorry...

You might not care if a guy rolls out a rug, but I can pretty much assure you that if it happened, most of the same hypocrites here defending Timmy T's right to pray would not jump to the defense of the said Muslim...

This is the hypocrisy of "Christians" today... You can have all the rights you want as long as nothing takes away from your Jesus stuff...

It is the same as an actor accepting an award and thanking God... It is nothing more than appealing to the masses... What about the people that didn't win? Did God just decide to poo on them for the day?

"Thank God for picking me to win in this situation over someone else..."

Yeah... That's what a just and loving God would be all about, right?

A person's mom, a receiver's hands, the Academy, etc. are all tangible things... Not an idea thought up to define something that cannot be defined without an extraordinary imagination...

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 10:58 AM

I don't think it "hurts" me as much as it amuses me... I see it as my duty to try and wake people the f**k up to their own absurd belief system.... sorry...

You might not care if a guy rolls out a rug, but I can pretty much assure you that if it happened, most of the same hypocrites here defending Timmy T's right to pray would not jump to the defense of the said Muslim...

This is the hypocrisy of "Christians" today... You can have all the rights you want as long as nothing takes away from your Jesus stuff...

It is the same as an actor accepting an award and thanking God... It is nothing more than appealing to the masses... What about the people that didn't win? Did God just decide to poo on them for the day?

"Thank God for picking me to win in this situation over someone else..."

Yeah... That's what a just and loving God would be all about, right?

A person's mom, a receiver's hands, the Academy, etc. are all tangible things... Not an idea thought up to define something that cannot be defined without an extraordinary imagination...

Freddie Mitchell's hands weren't all that tangible.

Everything you say here is based in your belief system, which sounds like it doesn't have a whole lot of respect for the beliefs of others. On the one hand, you mock the beliefs of others, then disparage Christians for what you perceive as looking down on the beliefs of others. This doesn't strike you as a tad hypocritical?

And I seriously doubt anyone else who's posted here would have an issue with a Muslim praying. Heck, the Panthers already had a Muslim player, and I don't recall anyone ever making an issue of it.

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 11:17 AM

Freddie Mitchell's hands weren't all that tangible.

Everything you say here is based in your belief system, which sounds like it doesn't have a whole lot of respect for the beliefs of others. On the one hand, you mock the beliefs of others, then disparage Christians for what you perceive as looking down on the beliefs of others. This doesn't strike you as a tad hypocritical?

And I seriously doubt anyone else who's posted here would have an issue with a Muslim praying. Heck, the Panthers already had a Muslim player, and I don't recall anyone ever making an issue of it.


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Posted 25 March 2010 - 11:19 AM

ugh...i thought you were going to let cat argue for you in the tinderbox slj?

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 11:20 AM

I would just like to add that just about any belief system is absurd, to a point. Even believing that the universe just exploded into being out of nothingness is pretty absurd to think about.

The way I think about it, the human mind hasn't been able to prove or disprove the existence of a God for thousands of years, nor do we know how the universe actually came about. Any creation theory, since we have little "proof" in regards to both religion and science, is pretty absurd to think about.

#87 Samuel L. Jackson

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 11:21 AM

Why should I have respect for something that continually disrespects the quest for knowledge and understanding beyond its own teachings?

Believing in something for the logical equivalent of "just because" is lazy, absurd, and foolish...

I'm sorry that "just because" or "faith" is good enough for some people... In fact, it has held the human race back for ages upon ages...

To equate the philosophy of "Jesus" with those of the great scholars mentioned in his signature is absolutely ridiculous... We have a self-written record of those guys, while Jesus' story is just that... a story told by others...

It doesn't just apply to Christians either... It is any religious entity that opposes critical thought and investigation, but encourages the belief in fairy tales...

The irony of the situation is that Muslims, Christians, and Jews all worship the same God, but hate each other because of the way their religions are taught... I don't hate any one of them, and feel like anyone can believe what they want to believe... Just because they accept it, doesn't mean I have to... Nor does it mean I have to show respect in the face of the opposition...

Allowance of belief does not equate to my requirement to respect a belief...

Life is too short to worry about it too much, and to be quite honest, religion sucks the life out of the majority of people's lives that it is a major part of...

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 11:24 AM

I would just like to add that just about any belief system is absurd, to a point. Even believing that the universe just exploded into being out of nothingness is pretty absurd to think about.

The way I think about it, the human mind hasn't been able to prove or disprove the existence of a God for thousands of years, nor do we know how the universe actually came about. Any creation theory, since we have little "proof" in regards to both religion and science, is pretty absurd to think about.


That is why I am an Agnostic... I don't know, and you don't either... but I'll be damned if I am not going to do my homework and try to call out all the bullshit I see...

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 11:25 AM

Pwned.


lol... way to add to the discussion!

Mob mentality is alive and well within the ranks of the believers!

I'm just baiting you for a response, please take the bait!

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 11:29 AM

Why should I have respect for something that continually disrespects the quest for knowledge and understanding beyond its own teachings?

Believing in something for the logical equivalent of "just because" is lazy, absurd, and foolish...

I'm sorry that "just because" or "faith" is good enough for some people... In fact, it has held the human race back for ages upon ages...

To equate the philosophy of "Jesus" with those of the great scholars mentioned in his signature is absolutely ridiculous... We have a self-written record of those guys, while Jesus' story is just that... a story told by others...

It doesn't just apply to Christians either... It is any religious entity that opposes critical thought and investigation, but encourages the belief in fairy tales...

The irony of the situation is that Muslims, Christians, and Jews all worship the same God, but hate each other because of the way their religions are taught... I don't hate any one of them, and feel like anyone can believe what they want to believe... Just because they accept it, doesn't mean I have to... Nor does it mean I have to show respect in the face of the opposition...

Allowance of belief does not equate to my requirement to respect a belief...

Life is too short to worry about it too much, and to be quite honest, religion sucks the life out of the majority of people's lives that it is a major part of...


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