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Ex-Bobcats owner blasts Charlotte

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if you have a problem attending events at the arena then you should also have the same issue with the nascar hall of fame and all those new shiny musuems that were built uptown because they come from the same source.
actually, you are wrong. All those new museums were funded by Wachovia/Wells Fargo (except the Nascar Hall of Fame of course). Once completed, their operating costs will be covered by the city, but the tax value of the new tower build adjacent to them more than covers their operating costs.

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actually, you are wrong. All those new museums were funded by Wachovia/Wells Fargo (except the Nascar Hall of Fame of course). Once completed, their operating costs will be covered by the city, but the tax value of the new tower build adjacent to them more than covers their operating costs.

i'm affraid not my friend they are funded through taxes received from hotels car rentals and such. wells/wach just gets a tax break on part of the value of their property up to a certain % for their contribution to the project(they did not fund all of the 160 million cost) either way tax funds of some sort where used to build all of these buildings . in turn wells/wach turns ownership of these buildings to the city(so they don't have to cover operating expenses)

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it should also be noted that deals like this called tax incr. financing generally cover certain things performed by one party(ex. parking deck construction)the city then gives them a tax break for ex amount of years based on the potential value of the entire project

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The Bobcats weren't supported because they haven't had a winning season in their franchise history. It was exacerbated by the fact that the team they replaced, the Hornets, were perennial playoff contenders when they left to go to New Orleans. I believe that if the Bobcats came here without the history of the Hornets, the community and the fans would have tolerated the losing better.

If you compare them to the Panthers who only have 10 games to fill, the Panthers had success very early in their second year plus have been a contender most years. I really think that Brown and Jordan will turn things around. They will likely make the playoffs for the first time and have a owner who is popular and at least says he will be visible. Johnson blasts the community but he surely didn't embrace Charlotte either. Does he live here like Richardson does? Do the Bobcats do as many PR things as the Panthers do? Are they as visible in the community? Do they even try and get the PR support that the Panthers garner?

I would say that the Bobcats were their own worst enemy and did little to garner support in the community. Hopefully a big name like Jordan will turn that around.

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I would say that the Bobcats were their own worst enemy and did little to garner support in the community. Hopefully a big name like Jordan will turn that around.

BINGO, it's just that some are debating other reasons race, the arena and such, i would hope we could move past all the mistakes and controversy that have been around the team

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BINGO, it's just that some are debating other reasons race, the arena and such, i would hope we could move past all the mistakes and controversy that have been around the team

As long as the Charlotte Observer is in business we wont. People said 3 years ago on this board, if the Bobcats win the critics and shots at ownership will go away. The Bobs get more negative ink now than ever. Its gone into overdrive now that we're knocking on a playoff berth. Its sad when the people and media in your own town are your biggest haters.

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Yeah, I guess you're right. Now that BJ has shown his true colors, I'm fairly sure most people will move on.

The city of Charlotte has shown its true colors. Its got alot of growing up to do to catch up with the rest of the world. And Bob's still here as a part owner of the Bobcats. If he stays, will we be able to move on? Or does he need to get out of town first?

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How about you grow a pair and respond to my post?

Why dont you grow a pair? Instead of taking me out for a beer, take Tom Sorenson or one of the other "writers" for the Observer and explain to them their articles create division in our community. Talk to them Zcustom, give them that paternal guidance that their irresponsible journalism reflects poorly on this city. Tell them that they misrepresent Charlotteans.

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The city of Charlotte has shown its true colors. Its got alot of growing up to do to catch up with the rest of the world. And Bob's still here as a part owner of the Bobcats. If he stays, will we be able to move on? Or does he need to get out of town first?

I don't know of ONE person who gives a flying f**k if Bob Johnson had a partial ownership in anything in this town. I know I certainly don't care. And no one has drummed him out of town. He is the one that sold his stake and moved on from ownership responsibilities (or whatever he did).

If the GENERAL POPULATION backed the Bobcats, we'd not be having this conversation. If the Bobcats filled TWC Stadium to capacity every game, then it would be a highly profitable business venture. If the product was better, than we might see this. And did you or Mr. Johnson stop to think that an historic economic downturn might have a hand in what's going on with attendance?

And The Observer simply reported what Bob Johnson said. "Irresponsible journalism"? For reporting racial bigotry? If Jerry Richardson said that Minorities were not supportive of the Panthers, f**king CNN would have that sh*t on the front page of their website. And yet you blame the newspaper?? Oh right... anything that casts a bad view of a minority member is divisive. I see....

People like you are the reason there is still a race barrier. Until there expectation to be treated like an equal, instead of being given "special" consideration , there will always be an unbalanced relationship, one side will be resentful, and the vicious circle of racism will continue.

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People like you are the reason there is still a race barrier. Until there expectation to be treated like an equal, instead of being given "special" consideration , there will always be an unbalanced relationship, one side will be resentful, and the vicious circle of racism will continue.

People like you get mad anytime you see a black man more successful than you. You have a sense of entitlement that black people were put on this earth to serve and accommodate you. You have a sense of entitlement that the NBA or the Bobcats owe you something in life cause you're an ex-Hornets fan. And even though you have no financial connection whatsoever with the team, you make up lies like "my tax dollars went to the Bobcats" to somehow prop yourself up as someone who should have final say on what the Bobs do. You even admitted you're not a Bobcats fan but you came here to proactively go against the organization. Very typical behavior I would expect from your type. Im not a NASCAR fan but I dont go in their forum and or try to rile black people up to not patronize there product. Its sad thats what you came in here to do. Too bad it wont work.

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IF ONLY THIS TEAM HAD WON THE NBA CHAMPIONSHIP ITS FIRST SEASON AND HAD A COOLS NAMES LIKE THE DESTROYERS OR ERADICATORS THEN I WOULD WATCH AND ITS ALL BOB JOHNSONS FAULT.

There. I just summed up every fairweather fan in Charlotte.

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I am watching the Bobcats as we speak. Most important is that it is halftime and we are up by 9. I can't admit to being as big a Bobcat fan as I am a Panthers fan. But I am like many, watching in the second half instead of turning elsewhere until close to the end or not at all. Nothing works like winning to make whatever is wrong right. If the team stays on a roll and makes some noise in the playoffs, I know I will paying more attention and attending games instead of just watching on TV. And for me, I don't care who owns it as long as we win games and put a quality team on the court. I will let others debate the politics, I just want a basketball team that I can watch and have a reasonable chance to win. After watching basketball since Wilt Chamberlain was in college, I know what good basketball looks like and lose interest when it isn't. And right now the Bobcats look good. It will take a tradition of winning before they will become mainstream. You can complain about and blame everyone and anyone. But if we keep winning, everything else is just background noise.

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