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#31 Mr. Scot

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 10:33 AM

I understand his feeling, though I hate to hear this kind of thing.

Hoover was consistently one of the nicest guys to fans at training camp. It won't feel right without him there.

Wonder if he'd look into a broadcast career. I think he'd be good at it.

#32 faultlessjoint

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 10:49 AM

Not my favorite move AT ALL but everything else that's been done has made sense for some reason - I am sure this does too.

Having 3 FBs on the team was kind of odd.



Fiametta and Hoover. Who is/was the third?


And don't say Sutton. Sutton is a HB, he is smallest (shortest and lightest) back on the team. He has never played FB at any point in his career other than the one game where Fiametta and Hoover were both out.

Also, I think Rosario outperformed Fiametta by a mile at FB last year.

#33 Mr. Scot

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 10:52 AM

The team never carries three fullbacks on the regular roster. They rarely carry two.

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 10:56 AM

There was no reason he had to be cut at this point. His back did cause problems but who is to say it is degenerative or will continue to bother him. Fullbacks take a lot of abuse especially with run first teams. It makes more sense to have two fullbacks just like we have 2 starting running backs. Sutton was fine for a game but hasn't shown to can do the job day in and day out if Fiametta gets hurt. With our history od injuries at several positions he would have provided a cost effective starter who could be spelled by Fiametta when needed. It wasn't as if Fiametta played all year injury free either. He only played in 10 games and started 2. If he gets nicked we are without a true fullback. Sure we could get by putting guys in there but frankly Hoover wasn't breaking the bank and it isn't like we are going to use the money saved to go out and pick up some high priced free agents.

Like several of the moves we made it made no football sense and was motivated by money only. Hopefully it doesn't come back to bite us, but with our luck the areas where we are thin will be the areas where we will have injuries like we did last year with DTs. He is right that at this point we have done little to improve our team and at this point are worse off than last year with the exception of Moore.

However the draft is approaching and we always seem to be more active in the second half of the FA period.

Just an FYI
P55 would also still have Delhomme, Rucker, and Minter on the team

#35 Big Ed

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 11:04 AM

I can't get over fans that go on about how great players were.

WERE!!

As Pantro says

I agree some fans live off a players glory years an want that player to play 30 years in the league .

Hoover was good in his time, now is not his time .
Age and injury catches every man !

#36 Nicks To The Colts

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 11:10 AM

IIRC Sutton blocked his ass off when we played the Saints and we hardly missed Hoover. Having a good fullback is important and all, but it's not like they're super rare or anything.

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 11:29 AM

Fiametta and Hoover. Who is/was the third?


And don't say Sutton. Sutton is a HB, he is smallest (shortest and lightest) back on the team. He has never played FB at any point in his career other than the one game where Fiametta and Hoover were both out.

Also, I think Rosario outperformed Fiametta by a mile at FB last year.


Sutton. I said it LOL. I understand where you are coming from though.

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 11:37 AM

If we're close to failure after cutting a 33 year old fullback, we were close to failure before we cut him.

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 11:44 AM

Agreed.

He is unemployed and is bitter about it. However, I do think this one was a financial move. You invested a high pick in the best FB in the draft. You have to get those guys on the field. Hoover has struggled with injuries the past two years....including his back.


yeah- Im afraid Hoover doesnt really have anthing to blame but getting old and the pounding he has taken over the years.

Hopefully hes put some of his past pay away.

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 11:51 AM

Fiametta will not be our FB of the future. I'd put money on that. He will be this season though, obviously.

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 11:56 AM

I think there is a bit of sour grapes, but 33 is hardly old for fullbacks and Hoovs point that Fiammetta was not outplaying him is valid. The reason I feel...and this may be to Hoover's point, that the Panthers may be setting themselves up for failure is they did cut some very productive players for some unprovens in HOPE they step up. Fiammetta is one of them. I also lol at the notion Sutton will be a full time FB. He did well for spot duty, but that was only spot duty.

#42 capfolly

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 11:56 AM

Why are so many people already so down on Fiametta?

#43 Panthro

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 11:57 AM

He'z not hoover!!!!

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 11:59 AM

I think there is a bit of sour grapes, but 33 is hardly old for fullbacks and Hoovs point that Fiammetta was not outplaying him is valid. The reason I feel...and this may be to Hoover's point, that the Panthers may be setting themselves up for failure is they did cut some very productive players for some unprovens in HOPE they step up. Fiammetta is one of them. I also lol at the notion Sutton will be a full time FB. He did well for spot duty, but that was only spot duty.


So we should tie up a roster spot for a guy who spent a large chunk of last year on the bench? By the way, he's not getting younger, and get used more than the average FB.

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 12:01 PM

Unproven. You have the glass half empty camp and the glass half full camp. The rosey glasses people that say all the reserves thrown into fulltime starting rolls will succeed (so they hope) while the others are reserved and want to see some production from these guys first.

Fiammetta was a good college FB, but so was two other FBs that Hoover managed to beat out over the years the Panthers drafted. We'll see if that translates to the pros...


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