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#76 Jase

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 12:51 PM

I agree that fiametta underwhelmed this season, but he was also a rookie. If he bulks up this offseason, I think that'll solve a lot of his problems.

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 12:53 PM

Bitches wanted it until they got it.

"Fox won't make the tough cuts."

"Fox plays over the hill veterans instead of up and coming younger players."

"Fox stuck with (player x) too long."

blah blah blah

Now they have another dead horse to beat. :rolleyes:

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 12:54 PM

I agree with most of the cuts, but cutting him was a huge mistake. Can't really blame him for any anger he has.


Amen!!!!

#79 rmoneyg35

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 12:54 PM

at first I didnt like the Hoover cut. He is a great blocking FB with experience and we are a run first team. I figured his loss would hurt our run game but I was looking back at past games he missed and we did fine without him so thus I think we made the right choice. Hoover doesnt really have any skills other than blocking and I think we could get someone with more versatility to replace him. I don't know if Fiammetta is going to be the answer but he was the #1 full back in the draft and the scouts seem to think he is the full package from this quote

Pick Analysis: Fiammetta was the best fullback in the draft. He is an excellent blocker yet he has rushing skills, as he was a running back coming out of high school. He also has excellent receiving skills. His blocking is not to be dismissed, though, and he really beefs up an already-powerful Panthers rushing attack.

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 12:56 PM

Age and salary, NOT lack of productivity with re-occuring injury lead to Hoover's cut.


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#81 Zcustom

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 12:57 PM

Age and salary, NOT lack of productivity with re-occuring injury lead to Hoover's cut.


it's damn near impossible to definitively answer this without working in the FO, anything else is premature speculation.

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 12:58 PM

I'm not a good example. My peer is my supervisor. And again, if the players are coaching, then why do we have coaches?


Coaches give the meat and veteran players provide the potatoes. While you might not be a good example, my tenured peers give me some finite details that my supervisor doesn't have the time for because he's busy running a company. Also, players and coaches don't tend to hang out with one another, players do. You would be shocked at the nuggets gleened when a setting is more casual.

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 01:01 PM

it's damn near impossible to definitively answer this without working in the FO, anything else is premature speculation.


Okay, the argument to the contrary is premature specualtion then as well. Agreed, only the FO knows the real reason, but the trend lends to the premise.

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 01:01 PM

I think you optimists are missing the elephant in the room. One of the worst injuries for a fullback is not back spasms but concussions. Their job is to act like a battering ram and charge headlong into the line trying to pile drive through the defense to create a hole. Can you tell me a worse position to have a guy who missed several games as a rookie with a concussion to play. Maybe middle linebacker. I have grave concerns that Fiametta doesn't make it through this year without a reoccurence. That leaves us nobody. Yeah I know that having a concussion is no guarantee of another but who is to say he hasn't had one in college already. Fiametta may be younger but he has not shown to be durable or reliable so far. Sometimes you go beyond cutting the fat and cut the meat as well. I think in this case we went too far in our zeal to save money.

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 01:02 PM

Ouch Hoov
the only thing that pains me about releasing Hoov is that we can no longer run the Catamount... sad day

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 01:02 PM

Coaches give the meat and veteran players provide the potatoes. While you might not be a good example, my tenured peers give me some finite details that my supervisor doesn't have the time for because he's busy running a company. Also, players and coaches don't tend to hang out with one another, players do. You would be shocked at the nuggets gleened when a setting is more casual.


lol coaches give the meat.
So, your replacement gets hired, once their up to speed you're on the street. What do you do? Extrapolate that?

Edited by 88 Bronco, 30 March 2010 - 01:07 PM.


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Posted 30 March 2010 - 01:05 PM

Okay, the argument to the contrary is premature specualtion then as well. Agreed, only the FO knows the real reason, but the trend lends to the premise.


My crappy theory is that they could no longer tie up extra roster spots (see also Rhys Lloyd) with non special teams contributors. When it came to FB it was a no brainer which one to let go based on what they had invested.

Either way if I had to bet, of course not, performance was not in the equation. But that's just speculation :cool:

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 01:05 PM

I'm sure it was a really tough business decision, and Hoov is acting like its never happened to anyone else before.

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 01:07 PM

We don't need no stinkin' FBs... If Tony goes down, we got Sutton... If Sutton goes down too, we got 2 guys suited for the HBack position that can fill in just fine...

In case you are forgetting, with all of our FBs missing time last season, our RBs set a milestone that has never been reached before...

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 01:08 PM

I'm sure it was a really tough business decision, and Hoov is acting like its never happened to anyone else before.


I don't like it, but I don't think it was as foolish as some of those here act.


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