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lol...lot's of people are going to be flipping out when hurney trades next year's first.

you know he's going to try to do it. it isn't that big of a deal.

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lol...lot's of people are going to be flipping out when hurney trades next year's first.

you know he's going to try to do it. it isn't that big of a deal.

There are 2 reasons I wouldn't want to do it:

1. If Moore ends up flopping I want to have a 1st rounder that we could use to get a QB.

2. Under the new CBA there could be a rookie salary cap. That means that a first round pick is like gold. Imagine getting Sam Bradford or Suh for 3 or 4 years and paying them a quarter of what it would cost to pay them now. No more 70 million dollar contracts for unproven rookies...

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we can always trade the following year's pick, though.

plus, i'm not of the opinion that we will be picking in the first 5 picks anytime in the near future.

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No one beleives we will be picking very high, but fact of the matter is...you never know.

A quality team over the long-term never mortages their future for the present. Look at the Redskins who mortgage their future every year! To be good long-term, a team needs to draft well & not give up picks. What happens when we move up & it's a bust? I really hope Everette Brown pans out, but if not, we are missing the opportunity to draft a very talented player b/c of the 'need' trade up (when they thought Peppers would not be back last year & knowing he wouldn't for sure this year).

The trade worked out with Otah, but that is not always the way things turn out.

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what if the first round pick is a bust? just ends up being a more expensive version.

plus...we didn't just get brown in that trade, we got goodson. still a lot of potential there with a year under his belt.

redskins have never been smart with the way they mortgage the future. they throw money and picks at the shiniest toys they can find only to have it blow up in their face when they realize that all that toy wanted was that big contract and now that they ahve it don't have to do anything. they always went after the most overrated pieces of crap (with the exception of portis) and gave them waaayy too much money.

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what if the first round pick is a bust? just ends up being a more expensive version.

Not really. To move up into the 1st, we will have to give up next years #1, plus a 2nd Rounder (or 3rd + 4th) this year, at best.

We would be losing out on those picks as well, not just getting a more expensive version. No one will trade a 1st Rd pick for nothing, so the cost is the extra draft picks given up.

IMO, we are not a complete enough team to give up any picks. As you know, we need: WR, DT, DE, OL, OLB, SS, CB, QB help at a minimum. We've released players that were moderately productive d/t cap reasons, so we need players to fill those roles. Therefore, I do not feel giving up picks is the best way to go.

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As much as I would love to see Marshall lined up beside Smitty, ain't gonna happen. If anything, Fox/Hurney will have their guy(s) picked out and will probably move up or down in the 2nd depending on how the boards look. This is a deep draft at WR. We will draft two. One will be from USC.

Which is to say, the first pick for the Carolina Panthers this year will be USC WR Damien Williams in the 2nd. Very smart route runner, quick feet, great hands, and very shifty and quick off the line. He will add some speed to the slot.

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Trade up into the top 20? Not worth it.

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Not really. To move up into the 1st, we will have to give up next years #1, plus a 2nd Rounder (or 3rd + 4th) this year, at best.

We would be losing out on those picks as well, not just getting a more expensive version. No one will trade a 1st Rd pick for nothing, so the cost is the extra draft picks given up.

IMO, we are not a complete enough team to give up any picks. As you know, we need: WR, DT, DE, OL, OLB, SS, CB, QB help at a minimum. We've released players that were moderately productive d/t cap reasons, so we need players to fill those roles. Therefore, I do not feel giving up picks is the best way to go.

QB - was addition by subtraction all we need is a backup/depth.

OL - We have a great OL all we need is depth, and we've hit in the very late rounds many times. Magazu is really looking to be one of the best coaches in the league, we'll just get some late round diamonds and polish them up.

CB - As long as Marshall stays all we need is depth. Replacing Dante Wesley will not be a huge task.

SS - Again, all we need is depth. I think we only go 4 deep at saftey so it's not a huge need as we already have 3 very capable ones.

OLB - I'm little nervous about Connor starting. But Fox/Hurney's comments are encouraging so I think we'll be fine there. We have much more pressing needs. So all we need again is depth.

DT - we cut two old guys who were losing their edge. Everybody coming in has fresh legs. Again with Fox/Hurney's comments I think they're pretty confident in the guys we have.

DE - lost a superstar so this is big need.

WR - lost what little consistency we had with Moose's departure so this is big need.

We have two big needs. I think that trading up would almost be better than staying put. With the depth and talent we have everywhere else we can afford to fill those holes with later draft picks and FA's. Keep in mind the guys we cut we're all low profile signings and many were scraps we picked up right before TC. We'll do the same thing again. I would rather try hard to get two impact players at DE/WR. The guys we have on the roster right now are our future so we aren't going to be looking for many impact players other than at DE/WR. Those are the only needs than Hurney/Fox have really spoke up about.

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Where is Bay-Bay projected to land? We need his blocking and play making ability more than any other team in the NFL.

And look at his wicked stiff arm:

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Jeremy Williams...period. Sleeper, could be available in the 5th if we trade up for a 5th.

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this is a deep draft, lets spend 2-3 picks smartly on wide outs and i bet we'll be set for a long time, we might even get the next marques colston. people keep saying that without a first we can't get a guy who won't contribute. i dont know if you people remember, but our very own steve smith was a third round pick, and analysts across the board guaranteed he wouldn't be more then a special teamer/return man... the only thing those analysts have ever been more wrong about would be reggie bush hahahaa.

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