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He inherited a 1-15 team, and it appears he is intent on leaving one for the next guy.

Delhomme, Peppers, Harris, Hoover, Diggs, Kemo, Lewis....this is what Seifert did before 2001, saying the Panthers were doomed to 7-9 seasons unless they went with a youth movement. He ditched Beuerlein and other vets, and when things went South, he had no one in his locker room to turn to.

Trading Harris makes NO sense.

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Why would you assume Fox has anything to do with these personnel moves?

Seifert purged all our veterans because he couldn't coach them, they had seen through his B.S. he was hoping for a team of youngsters that wouldn't question him.

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Why would you assume Fox has anything to do with these personnel moves?

Seifert purged all our veterans because he couldn't coach them, they had seen through his B.S. he was hoping for a team of youngsters that wouldn't question him.

You seriously think Head Coach John Fox had no idea about releasing these players?

Get real man.

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He inherited a 1-15 team, and it appears he is intent on leaving one for the next guy.

Delhomme, Peppers, Harris, Hoover, Diggs, Kemo, Lewis....this is what Seifert did before 2001, saying the Panthers were doomed to 7-9 seasons unless they went with a youth movement. He ditched Beuerlein and other vets, and when things went South, he had no one in his locker room to turn to.

Trading Harris makes NO sense.

I know you were pretty high on Fox as a coach. Does this off-season change your viewpoint any?

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Trading Harris makes perfect sense for a team who feels they have good young guys who can fill in there. Harris was kind of a liability in pass coverage as well. My only problem with the trade was I wish it happened before the draft though Williams seems like he will be a good fill in just in case Davis is still hurt.

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Why would you assume Fox has anything to do with these personnel moves?

Seifert purged all our veterans because he couldn't coach them, they had seen through his B.S. he was hoping for a team of youngsters that wouldn't question him.

Do you think Fox would stick around if he didn't have say in personnel moves? Especially with a team that hasn't renewed his contract?

I don't think he would. He'll have no problem finding work elsewhere.

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in a way I feel the same way because Fox has got to have a say in trades, Hurney cant just go trading away players at will unless HE is the one wanting us to fail, but at the same time, if there is a lockout next year thats an extra year to build and get used to our new "youth movement" without having the losing season to go with it. not to say I think we r going to lose but it's a possibility when you take team chemistry away u lose alot of respect in the locker room. Personally I think we are good for 10+ wins, we do have a very easy schedule

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JR may be behind all this

Fox has turned over his coaching staff in last 3 seasons

Now all his vet players are being turned over

If the team still can't get it together

That only leaves one equation left from the orginal problem:smash:

All the cards have been dealt

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I know you were pretty high on Fox as a coach. Does this off-season change your viewpoint any?

As a coach on the field, his record speaks for itself. I shouldn't have named this thread for Fox. It's the whole organization doing this. I just don't see what their vision is. Spending the whole offseason building up Moore, then drafting two of the top QBs. Purging veterans left and right. It works for New England because they have Brady to fall back on. But this reeks of a fire sale setting themselves up for high picks and money to spend on them. The fans are footing the bill, though.

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