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#1 Mr. Scot

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 02:08 AM

Pulling a small piece from the "who's to blame' thread because this issue has come up a lot.

I'm a big believer in veteran leadership. And yes, right now the team doesn't have as much as they used to.

But understand this: They are not getting rid of leadership. They are shifting more of it to the coaches than before.

You can like it or dislike, but don't automatically assume the team has a gaping leaderhship void just because veterans are fewer and farther between on the roster.

When they were reloading the coaching staff last season, they put a big emphasis on teaching ability.

The time has now come for those guys to prove whether or not they can teach...and lead.

Or, to put it simply, coach.

#2 Seamonk

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 02:20 AM

Team Captains will be interesting this year.. Do they pick Matt Moore/Jimmy Clausen? And defense.. We know Beason is there.. Special Teams might not be Kasay this year too..

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 06:46 AM

Beason
Gross
Will defiantly be Captains.
Smitty will probably be one too.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 06:49 AM

Beason
Gross
Will defiantly be Captains.
Smitty will probably be one too.


Defiantly?

What are they going to dramatically rip the badges off Gamble and Kasay's jerseys like at the end of Armageddon?

#5 Squirrel

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 06:51 AM

Defiantly?

What are they going to dramatically rip the badges off Gamble and Kasay's jerseys like at the end of Armageddon?


Yep. But you have what 5 Captains.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 06:55 AM

I just hope we can replace veteran leadership. Coaches leadership doesn't compare to on-field leadership, and a guy who is out there giving it his all with every other player. I just hope some new players can step up. Leadership will be really important for a team where a lot is unknown.

#7 panthers55

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 07:05 AM

Anyone who has played sports or coached them at any level beyond middle school know that the players on the team provide more leadership than any coach can during the game. And that is when it matters. Coaches provide direction, guidance and support but fellow players are the guys you live die and fight for, not the coaches. Veteran leadership or lack of it is why every year teams like St Louis or Detroit pack it in by week 12. It was also the reason we hung in there when we were 4-7 last year and didn't tank.

It is going to take several guys stepping up this year beyond the few guys who are already leaders. Should make for an interesting several months.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 07:09 AM

Do you guys really think that Harris would have been a good leader on this team? given his off-season actions, I think he would have been a problem.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 07:13 AM

Do you guys really think that Harris would have been a good leader on this team? given his off-season actions, I think he would have been a problem.


Hard to say. Off the field leadership is not the same as on the field. Smitty shows alot of leadership on the field on game day. The rest of the time not so much. Harris could still have lead the defense secondary although he didn't agree with all the changes. Others likely feel the same but certainly going forward will be much less verbal about it.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 07:51 AM

Pulling a small piece from the "who's to blame' thread because this issue has come up a lot.

I'm a big believer in veteran leadership. And yes, right now the team doesn't have as much as they used to.

But understand this: They are not getting rid of leadership. They are shifting more of it to the coaches than before.

You can like it or dislike, but don't automatically assume the team has a gaping leaderhship void just because veterans are fewer and farther between on the roster.

When they were reloading the coaching staff last season, they put a big emphasis on teaching ability.

The time has now come for those guys to prove whether or not they can teach...and lead.

Or, to put it simply, coach.


that is a pretty big reach to try to justify what is going on. Shifting leadership to the coaches and away from players? You need leaders on the field....they need that this year just as much as past seasons.

#11 PantherBrew

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 07:54 AM

Maybe they will vote me team captain.

::crosses fingers::

#12 HSCBandit07

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 07:54 AM

Harris was the leader in the secondary. This year will be a bit different. One thing is for sure, it is Beason's defense. There isn't anyone else who comes close on the defense now.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 07:55 AM

Hard to say. Off the field leadership is not the same as on the field. Smitty shows alot of leadership on the field on game day. The rest of the time not so much. Harris could still have lead the defense secondary although he didn't agree with all the changes. Others likely feel the same but certainly going forward will be much less verbal about it.



go to the newspaper and bad mouth your company...then see how long you stay employed.

Harris may not have agreed with the direction the team was going. I would not have a problem with him questioning it internally with the staff. However, when he started Twittering that crap, he went from a leader to a problem.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 08:14 AM

Eh, there's some bad teams out there that have good veteran leadership. I'll take the more talented players anyday. Besides, Beason is the leader of the Panthers defense, and he leads by example and by his play.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 08:14 AM

go to the newspaper and bad mouth your company...then see how long you stay employed.

Harris may not have agreed with the direction the team was going. I would not have a problem with him questioning it internally with the staff. However, when he started Twittering that crap, he went from a leader to a problem.


Actually I own the company so I can say what I want. LOL

I think the Panthers thought he was a problem as well and that was a big reason he was let go. We will see if he was correct or not in a few months,


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