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#16 panthers55

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 08:18 AM

Eh, there's some bad teams out there that have good veteran leadership. I'll take the more talented players anyday. Besides, Beason is the leader of the Panthers defense, and he leads by example and by his play.

But the inverse is rarely true. Teams without good veteran leadership are rarely successful. And Beason can't do it all himself. You need leaders at every level on defense. Who is going to run the secondary? Gamble? Godfrey? Martin??

Good luck on that.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 08:21 AM

But the inverse is rarely true. Teams without good veteran leadership are rarely successful. And Beason can't do it all himself. You need leaders at every level on defense. Who is going to run the secondary? Gamble? Godfrey? Martin??

Good luck on that.


Who cares who leads the secondary? As long as they communicate well with each other and do their individual jobs, they will be just fine.

As far as I'm concerned, getting Martin on the field was a must for this style of defense, and they will be better for it, regardless of who the "leader" is.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 08:23 AM

But the inverse is rarely true. Teams without good veteran leadership are rarely successful. And Beason can't do it all himself. You need leaders at every level on defense. Who is going to run the secondary? Gamble? Godfrey? Martin??

Good luck on that.


I hate to say it....just imagine if Beason goes down.....the DL, LB, and secondary will not only be fairly weak bunch across the board but there would be ZERO leadership on the field.

Edited by CRA, 28 April 2010 - 08:27 AM.


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Posted 28 April 2010 - 08:25 AM

Can't have the same leaders forever.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 08:27 AM

I think most people are just mad that they cant suggust Chris Harris become the secondary coach when he is about to retire.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 08:34 AM

I think most people are just mad that they cant suggust Chris Harris become the secondary coach when he is about to retire.


I think most people are mad b/c it is another move suggesting 2010 isn't what is being looked at. Trading away a starting S for a backup LB doesn't make loads of sense this year......I got no problem parting w/ Harris if it makes sense but Harris>Godfrey. Also, moves like this make you question draft day and picking up Pike and whatnot late.......Rolle was avaliable then if they were dumping a S.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 08:38 AM

I hate to say it....just imagine if Beason goes down.....the DL, LB, and secondary will not only be fairly weak bunch across the board but there would be ZERO leadership on the field.


So what if Gamble goes down? He may not be a vocal leader, but he is our best corner, and it will hurt the defense just as much as if Beason goes down. All any team can do is try to build as much depth as possible and hope their best players can stay relatively healthy.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 08:39 AM

I think most people are mad b/c it is another move suggesting 2010 isn't what is being looked at. Trading away a starting S for a backup LB doesn't make loads of sense this year......I got no problem parting w/ Harris if it makes sense but Harris>Godfrey. Also, moves like this make you question draft day and picking up Pike and whatnot late.......Rolle was avaliable then if they were dumping a S.



I am sure Hurney is not so damned retarded that he decided to make this decision on a whim and that this is not apart of the teams "plan".

But for me, I am indifferent.

We are not being rebuilding, we are being remodeled.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 08:41 AM

So what if Gamble goes down? He may not be a vocal leader, but he is our best corner, and it will hurt the defense just as much as if Beason goes down. All any team can do is try to build as much depth as possible and hope their best players can stay relatively healthy.


No, Gamble will not be as big of a blow as Beason going down. Beason might be the best 4-3 MLB in the game and is the sole leader of this defense.

Gamble is a streaky and overrated CB.....but the best we got.

Carolina didn't have depth at S or proven NFL players.....they traded a starting S for a backup LB, so how is that buiding the best possible depth?

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 08:42 AM

BTW, I wonder how many "veteran team leaders" and fan favorites the Patriots and Eagles have cut loose over the last 10 years? They are always trading or releasing veterans, yet they are contenders every year.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 08:43 AM

I am sure Hurney is not so damned retarded that he decided to make this decision on a whim and that this is not apart of the teams "plan".

But for me, I am indifferent.

We are not being rebuilding, we are being remodeled.


Ok, if he was dumping/trading Harris then why draft Pike and not Rolle in the 6th?

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 08:43 AM

Didn’t Brown say something about wanting to take a more active role in leadership on the team? I think it was in that recent article about him being bigger and stronger this year. It may be possible that he can follow in Beason’s footsteps and become a leader in his second year, that is of course if he plays up to Beason’s standards.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 08:44 AM

Ok, if he was dumping/trading Harris then why draft Pike and not Rolle in the 6th?


Maybe when they say they draft for the Best Player Availible, they actually mean it? :cool:

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 08:45 AM

Didn’t Brown say something about wanting to take a more active role in leadership on the team? I think it was in that recent article about him being bigger and stronger this year. It may be possible that he can follow in Beason’s footsteps and become a leader in his second year, that is of course if plays up to Beason’s standards.


Brown needs to worry about getting on the field first instead of being a situational player.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 08:45 AM

No, Gamble will not be as big of a blow as Beason going down. Beason might be the best 4-3 MLB in the game and is the sole leader of this defense.

Gamble is a streaky and overrated CB.....but the best we got.

Carolina didn't have depth at S or proven NFL players.....they traded a starting S for a backup LB, so how is that buiding the best possible depth?


Really? So who replaces Gamble?

BTW, they didn't have a proven guy to replace Minter either, and nobody here had any idea how good or bad Chris Harris would end up being. The lesson here is to wait and see before you throw a hissy.


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