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#46 CRA

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 09:53 AM

Fixed.

Value means taking BPA.

You are talking about drafting based on needs. We dont do that.

I was speaking about the possibility of drafting Mays, because since they knew they were trading a starting safety then they could have drafted for a "need" there instead of a QB in Clausen, since we had a starter in Moore.

But I understand what you are saying. Its really not that big of a deal. If a 6th round safety is going to make that big of a difference this season. Then we have bigger issues.


No, you are talking value in a vacuum. I'm looking at value in regards to a team.

but I agree, we have bigger issues.

#47 klumme

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 09:54 AM

The value for Carolina would be in Rolle w/ that pick based on what they are doing and need.


Yep pick a guy who absolutely do not fit the scheme that would be value for the Panthers:mad2:

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 09:54 AM

actually i just read the article where harris was being shopped around and almost released. Why this wasn't done before the draft only Hurney knows. We could have gotten an extra pick


Pretty sure he was shopped before the draft...

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 09:55 AM

actually i just read the article where harris was being shopped around and almost released. Why this wasn't done before the draft only Hurney knows. We could have gotten an extra pick


Doubtful. Teams wanted to hold onto their picks in this deep draft.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 10:00 AM

I think most people are mad b/c it is another move suggesting 2010 isn't what is being looked at. Trading away a starting S for a backup LB doesn't make loads of sense this year......I got no problem parting w/ Harris if it makes sense but Harris>Godfrey. Also, moves like this make you question draft day and picking up Pike and whatnot late.......Rolle was avaliable then if they were dumping a S.


HAHA. Oh man, you're reaching.

#51 CRA

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 10:08 AM

HAHA. Oh man, you're reaching.


we did trade away our starting S for a backup LB.

You also can't argue if Godfrey moves over he is an upgrade this season. His coverage is just as bad and his tackling is worse.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 10:10 AM

we did trade away our starting S for a backup LB.

You also can't argue if Godfrey moves over he is an upgrade this season. His coverage is just as bad and his tackling is worse.


Did you watch the last several games of the season last year?

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 10:10 AM

we did trade away our starting S for a backup LB.

You also can't argue if Godfrey moves over he is an upgrade this season. His coverage is just as bad and his tackling is worse.


do you actually watch Panther games? Or, do you get your info just from ESPN?

Godfrey had an int and 3 forced fumbles in the last 5 games of the season. His coverage is WAY better than Harris'.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 10:11 AM

we did trade away our starting S for a backup LB.

You also can't argue if Godfrey moves over he is an upgrade this season. His coverage is just as bad and his tackling is worse.


My point was more along the lines of "he could be upgraded." I was pretty indifferent to Harris, but after seeing some of his stats...

#55 mountainpantherfan

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 10:13 AM

If you put a team on the field w/ Marshall/Captain on the field the change won't be as significant as if you took Beason off.

You wait and see if it is one or two things.....Carolina is just dumping and preparing for after 2010. I would have no problem sitting back if the majority of the fanbase could accept that reality. Again, that ain't tanking that is building for future teams.


I love the statement you just made.

Do I expect the Panthers to be a Super Bowl contender in 2010? Not really, but I didn't expect that before the cuts, FA and the draft. Richardson, Hurney, Fox or whoever is orchastrating this plan is doing so with an eye to the future. And I'm okay with that.

However, just because they are not trying to build a Super Bowl team this offseason, as they have tried to do in the past, doesn't mean this team will go 1-15. With young players you never know what exactly you are getting. It could end up that this team is the most talented and leadership filled team in the league. Or they could struggle the entire season. But there is just no way of knowing either way at this point in time and that is what frustrates most people.

I think like with most things in life, there is a reasonable place between the "sky is falling crowd" and the "front office is perfect and this team will be great crowd".

#56 CRA

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 10:19 AM

do you actually watch Panther games? Or, do you get your info just from ESPN?

Godfrey had an int and 3 forced fumbles in the last 5 games of the season. His coverage is WAY better than Harris'.


LOL.


22 games of horrific play
2 games of not horrific play
4 games where his coverage and open field tackling was just as bad as always - but he managed to get some FFs.

WAY better than Harris? Please do YOU watch Panther games. Godfrey over the past two seasons has been the worst guy in coverage.....over Harris.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 10:21 AM

LOL.


22 games of horrific play
2 games of not horrific play
4 games where his coverage and open field tackling was just as bad as always - but he managed to get some FFs.

WAY better than Harris? Please do YOU watch Panther games. Godfrey over the past two seasons has been the worst guy in coverage.....over Harris.


Exaggeration. It makes you sound smart.

#58 CRA

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 10:23 AM

I love the statement you just made.

Do I expect the Panthers to be a Super Bowl contender in 2010? Not really, but I didn't expect that before the cuts, FA and the draft. Richardson, Hurney, Fox or whoever is orchastrating this plan is doing so with an eye to the future. And I'm okay with that.

However, just because they are not trying to build a Super Bowl team this offseason, as they have tried to do in the past, doesn't mean this team will go 1-15. With young players you never know what exactly you are getting. It could end up that this team is the most talented and leadership filled team in the league. Or they could struggle the entire season. But there is just no way of knowing either way at this point in time and that is what frustrates most people.

I think like with most things in life, there is a reasonable place between the "sky is falling crowd" and the "front office is perfect and this team will be great crowd".


I agree.

I think 8-8 sounds good. Maybe slightly better or worse. Just depends on what the opponents turn out to be.....the 2010 team won't have the talent on D yet to make a push into the playoffs.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 10:25 AM

Exaggeration. It makes you sound smart.


Sorry. I have been all over Godfrey from day one. I watch him every game. An exaggreation would be to claim he is better in coverage than Harris.

#60 Rononoa3000

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 10:27 AM

Leadership=Veterans

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