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Maybe we can get Primo Brezec back.

The Slovenian Gangster!

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Seriously I wouldn't mind having Hermann back. If he could understand LB's english, I think he could have turned into a real baller.

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Ham Biscuit is the one that traded Hermann.

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Ham Biscuit is the one that traded Hermann.

Yep, traded two expirings for a contract the Bobs are still struggling with.

Hermann had a Boris Diaw skill set but without the issues about aggressiveness. He could have been a serious contributor.

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We're going to need another center once one of Chandler and Mohammed get traded this offseason because of their expiring contracts. We've got a pair of injury-prone centers making $12MM and $6MM in the last year of their contracts, so center is a spot we need to upgrade. Hopefully we can dump Chandler's $12MM and bring in Haywood, who offers similar production to a healthy Tyson Chandler and would come cheaper. We'd be dumping $12MM, adding a fraction of that for Haywood, and keeping the rest of it to combine with other moves to improve our team.

Maybe I'm the one that's wrong, but I think too many people are thinking of this team as a finished product with a couple adjustments needed, but I think that's really far from the truth. Gerald Wallace is the only player on this team that is even slightly untouchable, and it wouldn't suprise me if he was the only starter left from this season's team once the 2010-2011 season starts.

I am pretty sure Tyson contract is a PLAYER OPTION. At 28yrs old and a reputation for being injury prone he is not gonna warrant 13million on the market. He is gonna take the GUARANTEED money. I can safely say i am not one of those that think the team is a finished product.

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Looking for a pure scorer? Anthony Morrow should come cheap, even as a restricted free agent, and averages 16 points per 36min. Not only that, but he's a career 46% 3-point shooter. He's also a Charlotte native and looks to be a young player that could have a big breakout season if put in the right situation.

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Maybe I'm the one that's wrong, but I think too many people are thinking of this team as a finished product with a couple adjustments needed, but I think that's really far from the truth. Gerald Wallace is the only player on this team that is even slightly untouchable, and it wouldn't suprise me if he was the only starter left from this season's team once the 2010-2011 season starts.

The starting 5 for next season's opener are already on the Bobs roster :)

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I am pretty sure Tyson contract is a PLAYER OPTION. At 28yrs old and a reputation for being injury prone he is not gonna warrant 13million on the market. He is gonna take the GUARANTEED money. I can safely say i am not one of those that think the team is a finished product.

According to ESPN, he has an ETO for this upcoming season. I highly doubt he'd exercise it though, meaning that we can trade him essentially as $12MM off the books for the '11 offseason, when players like Joakim Noah (RFA), Carmelo Anthony, Tayshaun Prince, Kevin Durant (RFA), Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, Andrei Kirilenko, and any RFA signing a one-year deal this offseason will be on the market. It may not seem like much, but for a team with a young core that misses out on a big name this offseason, dealing with one year of Chandler for the potential to get a stud player next offseason would be worth the risk.

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According to ESPN, he has an ETO for this upcoming season. I highly doubt he'd exercise it though, meaning that we can trade him essentially as $12MM off the books for the '11 offseason, when players like Joakim Noah (RFA), Carmelo Anthony, Tayshaun Prince, Kevin Durant (RFA), Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, Andrei Kirilenko, and any RFA signing a one-year deal this offseason will be on the market. It may not seem like much, but for a team with a young core that misses out on a big name this offseason, dealing with one year of Chandler for the potential to get a stud player next offseason would be worth the risk.

Yes he has a ETO. It is basically the same thing as a player option in this case. I don't see him exercising it either, why would he? ha.

And I agree keep him in hopes for next year, especially since Chandler's trade value can't be that high.

Can you even trade someone with an ETO anyways?

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The starting 5 for next season's opener are already on the Bobs roster :)

No offense, but I hope you're wrong. That would mean we're sticking with Felton or going with Augustine, neither of which I'm thrilled with. If we don't get a new PF, then I'm fine with Thomas, but I do think we need a new starter (yes, over what we already have on the roster) at center too.

Yes he has a ETO. It is basically the same thing as a player option in this case. I don't see him exercising it either, why would he? ha.

And I agree keep him in hopes for next year, especially since Chandler's trade value can't be that high.

Can you even trade someone with an ETO anyways?

I don't see why you couldn't trade someone with an ETO. As long as he declines to exercise it by whatever date was predetermined, it would be just like trading for a player with one year left on his contract.

And to clarify, I'm in favor of shopping Chandler anywhere and everywhere before deciding to keep him. I think the amount of value he actually has will surprise you; we got Stephen Jackson for an injured Raja Bell and Vlad Radmanovic. Chandler may not be worth much as a player, but his expiring contract may be able to bring in a player with plenty of value to us, especially if we were to combine it with something decent.

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Sorry, I must have misread your post, ha.

I don't see why you couldn't trade someone with an ETO. As long as he declines to exercise it by whatever date was predetermined, it would be just like trading for a player with one year left on his contract.

I just read this:

Interestingly, there is no mechanism to notify the league that an option will NOT be exercised. Teams and players might want to do this in order to make the player tradeable after the season ends but before July 1, or because the player wants to be traded to a team which does not want the player if he might become a free agent. As described in question number 53, under these circumstances the team and player can mutually amend the contract to remove the option.

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm

If I am reading this correctly, it sounds like it is tricky to trade someone with an ETO. Because there's no real way of "Not exercising the ETO." So if a player with an ETO is traded to a team (before July 1st) that he doesn't like for whatever reason, can he use that ETO to become a free agent? That's what it sound like to me. I guess after July 1st it is easier.

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Sorry, I must have misread your post, ha.

No problem dude. My big thing with wanting to trade Chandler moreso than Mohammed has a lot to do with his contract. We could trade away his $12MM and get a player that's just as good as he is when he's healthy for around half the price in Brendan Haywood. Haywood and Mohammed splitting time at Center would be nice for us.

I just read this:

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm

If I am reading this correctly, it sounds like it is tricky to trade someone with an ETO. Because there's no real way of "Not exercising the ETO." So if a player with an ETO is traded to a team (before July 1st) that he doesn't like for whatever reason, can he use that ETO to become a free agent? That's what it sound like to me. I guess after July 1st it is easier.

Sounds like it to me. I'm sure with a trade though, the receiving team would get some kind of guarantee that the player would not exercise the ETO, kind of like in baseball when a player agrees to be traded but the receiving team has to pick up his option. It seems like there's the potential for some fun to happen in a trade, but the player would have to be a real doucher for something to go down.

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