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#16 pantherfan49

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 04:52 PM

One completely realistic option for this team that I like is Brendan Haywood. I think at least one of Chandler and Mohammad will be leaving this summer via trade, and Haywood is a defensive force to plug in as our starter at center. He's not flashy at all, but he's a legitimate center with ties to North Carolina (he's a former Tar Heel) and has been very consistent year in and year out.


Won't happen without Chandler or Mohammed leaving (as you correctly pointed out).

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 04:59 PM

Won't happen without Chandler or Mohammed leaving (as you correctly pointed out).


Hopefully we can move one of them and pick Haywood up, because there's nothing that we can trust them to do on a regular basis that he doesn't do just as well and cheaper.

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 05:17 PM

Hopefully we can move one of them and pick Haywood up, because there's nothing that we can trust them to do on a regular basis that he doesn't do just as well and cheaper.


I actually think Chandler is a slightly better player on both ends of the court, however, we all know that Chandlers problem is staying healthy.

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 10:41 PM

I actually think Chandler is a slightly better player on both ends of the court, however, we all know that Chandlers problem is staying healthy.


Well to use a bit of statistical analysis, Haywood has posted PER's of 16.1, 14.9 (he missed most of the year), and 18.3 over the past three years. Over his career he's averaged 11.3 points, 9.3 rebounds, and 2.2 blocks per 36 min. Chandler has posted PER's of 12.5, 13.4, and 17.5 over the past three years and averages 10.5 points, 11.5 rebounds, and 2.1 blocks per 36 min in his career.

The differences are fairly marginal until you see that Chandler has missed significant chunks of the past two years while making around twice as much as Haywood has. Nazr actually showed some life as an off-the-bench scorer down low last season, so ideally (for me at least) we'd be able to dump Chandler's contract and pick up Haywood, which would leave some payroll still open to make some other moves.

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 11:02 PM

Yeah why is there no love for Nazr. He was clearly our best Center this year. If it wasn't for his injury he would had still been starting over Theo.

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 11:42 PM

I don't think we need to improve our Center position as much as others. Having a perimeter shooter and a elite PG would help us more. Along with better bench productions. . A three headed attack at Center is suffucient. TC, Diop or Nzar then maybe Kwame Brown off the scrap heap.

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Posted 17 May 2010 - 12:21 PM

I don't think we need to improve our Center position as much as others. Having a perimeter shooter and a elite PG would help us more. Along with better bench productions. . A three headed attack at Center is suffucient. TC, Diop or Nzar then maybe Kwame Brown off the scrap heap.


We're going to need another center once one of Chandler and Mohammed get traded this offseason because of their expiring contracts. We've got a pair of injury-prone centers making $12MM and $6MM in the last year of their contracts, so center is a spot we need to upgrade. Hopefully we can dump Chandler's $12MM and bring in Haywood, who offers similar production to a healthy Tyson Chandler and would come cheaper. We'd be dumping $12MM, adding a fraction of that for Haywood, and keeping the rest of it to combine with other moves to improve our team.

Maybe I'm the one that's wrong, but I think too many people are thinking of this team as a finished product with a couple adjustments needed, but I think that's really far from the truth. Gerald Wallace is the only player on this team that is even slightly untouchable, and it wouldn't suprise me if he was the only starter left from this season's team once the 2010-2011 season starts.

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Posted 17 May 2010 - 12:28 PM

Yeah why is there no love for Nazr. He was clearly our best Center this year. If it wasn't for his injury he would had still been starting over Theo.


That's why. His body simply can't hold up to the wear and tear of being a starter at this point in his career. I'd much rather trade Chandler than Mohammed though, Nazr is the cheaper player and showed life as a post presence off the bench last year.

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Posted 17 May 2010 - 12:35 PM

Maybe we can get Primo Brezec back.

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Posted 17 May 2010 - 02:56 PM

Maybe we can get Primo Brezec back.


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Posted 17 May 2010 - 03:04 PM

Seriously I wouldn't mind having Hermann back. If he could understand LB's english, I think he could have turned into a real baller.

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Posted 17 May 2010 - 03:51 PM

Ham Biscuit is the one that traded Hermann.

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Posted 17 May 2010 - 04:10 PM

Ham Biscuit is the one that traded Hermann.


Yep, traded two expirings for a contract the Bobs are still struggling with.

Hermann had a Boris Diaw skill set but without the issues about aggressiveness. He could have been a serious contributor.

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Posted 17 May 2010 - 04:58 PM

We're going to need another center once one of Chandler and Mohammed get traded this offseason because of their expiring contracts. We've got a pair of injury-prone centers making $12MM and $6MM in the last year of their contracts, so center is a spot we need to upgrade. Hopefully we can dump Chandler's $12MM and bring in Haywood, who offers similar production to a healthy Tyson Chandler and would come cheaper. We'd be dumping $12MM, adding a fraction of that for Haywood, and keeping the rest of it to combine with other moves to improve our team.

Maybe I'm the one that's wrong, but I think too many people are thinking of this team as a finished product with a couple adjustments needed, but I think that's really far from the truth. Gerald Wallace is the only player on this team that is even slightly untouchable, and it wouldn't suprise me if he was the only starter left from this season's team once the 2010-2011 season starts.




I am pretty sure Tyson contract is a PLAYER OPTION. At 28yrs old and a reputation for being injury prone he is not gonna warrant 13million on the market. He is gonna take the GUARANTEED money. I can safely say i am not one of those that think the team is a finished product.

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Posted 17 May 2010 - 05:14 PM

Looking for a pure scorer? Anthony Morrow should come cheap, even as a restricted free agent, and averages 16 points per 36min. Not only that, but he's a career 46% 3-point shooter. He's also a Charlotte native and looks to be a young player that could have a big breakout season if put in the right situation.


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