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Will you miss Peppers or Delhomme more?

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I stuck by Jake long after my friends gave up on him...but after watching many games during this (oh so long) off season I cant help but to look at almost every one of Jakes passes just him throwing it up...Smith made Jake.

Peppers - Im gonna miss him the most. Being a Peppers fan hasnt been easy last couple of years. Hard to like a guy who 'doesnt want to be a Panther'.

I really hope Peppers will be back in a few years to close out his career.

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Jake and it's not even close.

Jake would have played for free if it meant he could stay here for another chance.

Peppers turned down the biggest defensive end contract in the league to leave, and has badmouthed the Panthers since leaving. Would I want him back on the team? Hell yes because he's one of the best, but this thread is about who I'd miss more so it's obviously Jake.

Peppers was the better player, but as a person can't be mentioned in the same sentence as Jake.

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delhomme without a doubt. he was the definition of cardiac cats. he was vocal, and was just a likeable guy. if peppers had half of the fire that jake had, he could have been a legend like reggie white or lawrence taylor.

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[quote name='Cat Fanboy']I really hope Peppers will be back in a few years to close out his career.[/QUOTE]



the truth is that no matter how much we offered julius, he wasnt going to sign with us, and accually took less in Chi than we offered him. that means that it is personal. he didnt like us, and dint want anything to do with us.

screw him. we were going to make him the highest paid defensive player in the NFL, and it still wasnt good enough for him. i hope he gets exposed in chicago for the dissapointment that he is. i pray that chicago dumps him with that clause they wrote in his contract.

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Funny, Peppers puts up All-Pro numbers every year (except one) while Jake's last name has been used as the epitome of failue, yet you're going to miss Jake more? It's amazing how sensitive our fanbase is when a player expresses wanting to play somewhere else.

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[quote name='KillerKat']Funny, Peppers puts up All-Pro numbers every year (except one) while Jake's last name has been used as the epitome of failue, yet you're going to miss Jake more? It's amazing how sensitive our fanbase is when a player expresses wanting to play somewhere else.[/QUOTE]

Jake has done more for the franchise than Peppers.(both on AND off the field.)

Peppers is obviously the better player now, but fact is this wasn't about "who you want back on the team more" it's about "who are you going to miss more."

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Jake. And it has nothing to do with Peppers wanting to play somewhere else. It has to do with character. But that is something that has been lost in America...very few people really have it or recognize it when they see it.

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You guys can't be serious, fuck that he didn't want to be here stuff. Pep will be missed over this way

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[quote name='kennypowers30']Jake has done more for the franchise than Peppers.(both on AND off the field.)

Peppers is obviously the better player now, but fact is this wasn't about "who you want back on the team more" it's about "who are you going to miss more."[/QUOTE]

Yeah like lose game after game for this organization.

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This shouldnt even be a debate. Peppers all the way! I care more about production than I do character. Jake single handedly destroyed this team last year while Peppers still played at a pro bowl level.

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[quote name='KillerKat']Funny, Peppers puts up All-Pro numbers every year (except one) while Jake's last name has been used as the epitome of failue, yet you're going to miss Jake more? It's amazing how sensitive our fanbase is when a player expresses wanting to play somewhere else.[/QUOTE]

stats and numbersdont tell the whole story though. during his career, PROBABLY 85% of peppers sacks came in just a few games a season. usually against bad teams. julius also didnt have really good numbers in the playoffs, but jake raised his game in the playoffs, and for years had the highest playoff QB rating in the league, of course until 2008 messed up his average.

jake didnt have the numbers that peppers did, but the truth is that jake was a warrior on and off the feild. the whole team went out and gave they're all for jake when he got them fired up. his leadership will be missed more than peppers numbers will be.
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[quote name='DaCityKats']Yeah like lose game after game for this organization.[/QUOTE]

picks or not, atleast jake showed up to play every sunday

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[quote name='PantherBob']This shouldnt even be a debate. Peppers all the way! I care more about production than I do character. Jake single handedly destroyed this team last year while Peppers still played at a pro bowl level.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for making my point.

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[quote name='DaCityKats']Yeah like lose game after game for this organization.[/QUOTE]

Yeah like bring the team to multiple playoff victories and it's first Super Bowl appearance and playing lights out in it, only to be let down by the defense.

See what I did there?

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[quote name='Jangler']Thanks for making my point.[/QUOTE]

What was your point? That most americans would prefer a DE that gets you 10 sacks a year instead of a QB that throws twice as many INTs than TD passes.

You're right....Shame on them!

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Jake is a great guy, but his production (or lack there of) is going to be easier to replace.

Replacing peppers production, and mere presense on the field will be impossible.

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[quote name='kennypowers30']Yeah like bring the team to multiple playoff victories and it's first Super Bowl appearance and playing lights out in it, only to be let down by the defense.

See what I did there?[/QUOTE]

Yes Jake did alot of good things from 2003 - 2005. After that he became a liability. You can go back to 2006 when he threw 4 game ending INTs at the end of the game which cost us a shot at the playoffs or him throwing more INTs than TDs in 2008 (including the playoffs) and in 2009. The fact is he was causing more harm than good.

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[quote name='PantherBob']What was your point? That most americans would prefer a DE that gets you 10 sacks a year instead of a QB that throws twice as many INTs than TD passes.

You're right....Shame on them![/QUOTE]

Peppers was so good his sacks should have over come anything Jake did. Where was he in the Arizona game? Where was he in the Dallas game? The Buffalo game? on and on...
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peppers because the times he hurt the team don't show up as easily in the stat line as do jake's and im literally a drooling man child who doesn't know f**k about shit
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I'll miss Jake's leadership and Peppers' skills.

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[quote name='Jangler']Peppers was so good his sacks should have over come anything Jake did. Where was he in the Arizona game? Where was he in the Dallas game? The Buffalo game? on and on...[/QUOTE]

There isnt a DE in the league that gets a sack in every game. Thats a very unrealistic and silly expectation. Jarred Allen has had quiet games as well but he is still regarded as the best in the NFL. Look at Peps overall production and compare that to Jake and tell me who the better player was. Its not even close.

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[quote name='Jangler']Peppers was so good his sacks should have over come anything Jake did. Where was he in the Arizona game? Where was he in the Dallas game? The Buffalo game? on and on...[/QUOTE]

i was thinking the exact same thing. when jake was having a bad day, what did peppers do to try and help us win... i bet he thought, oh well, we're down by more than 7 points...fu*k it, at least i made my $million this week.

jake hadf some bad games, but the last time i checked, football is a team sport.

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[quote name='Woodcookedbbq']I'll miss Jake's leadership and Peppers' skills.[/QUOTE]

Yep. I'll miss Peppers as a player, and Jake as a person.

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Who?
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[quote name='PantherBob']There isnt a DE in the league that gets a sack in every game. Thats a very unrealistic and silly expectation. Jarred Allen has had quiet games as well but he is still regarded as the best in the NFL. Look at Peps overall production and compare that to Jake and tell me who the better player was. Its not even close.[/QUOTE]


But, but his sacks! We should have won at least two more game in spite of Jake's play last year, if Peppers had shown up...

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