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Will you miss Peppers or Delhomme more?

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Easy is subjective... It is rather obvious to anyone outside the Panthers' fan base who is a more valuable and talented football player...

Jake Delhomme was a fiery guy who wore his heart on his sleeve...

Julius Peppers is a guy who demands gameplanning from other teams, and does enough with his sheer natural talent to compensate for the weaknesses of those around him...

Neither deserve a statue beside Sam Mills, but Peppers was a game-changer for the good of the team... Jake Delhomme was a game-changer to the detriment... especially later in his career...

Jake was throwing to Steve Smith, while Pep was a man on an island...

I agree up to the point that you said Peppers was a game changer to the good of the team and Jake was not. Jake won more games for us in 2003 alone than Peppers did in his career. When was the last time that we had to have a play from Peppers and you could count on him delivering? How many times like against San Diego in 2008 was the game on the line and Jake delivered at the end of the game. We used to have guys on defense who you could count on to make the play or deliver under pressure, Chad Coda against Pittsburgh, Sam Mills against the Jets, Kevin Greene multiple times in 1996 when he would get the sack when you had to have it. Outisde of the interception off of Vick in atlanta which he ran back for a TD (we lost the game eventually anyway) I can't think of 3 plays where he actually won a game for us with his play. Sure teams gameplanned for him but they game-planned longer to take away Smith and Delhomme.

Jake had Smith and Peppers was on an island? Obviously you are too focused on 2009 and forget the other 7 years he played here. In 2002 and 2003 he played on one of the best lines in the league. He played with Jenkins and Rucker for much of his career. He wasn't on an island for most of his career but the analogy to Lost is pretty accurate to describe his performance in 2007 and other times in his career. Jake's best numbers ever were when Smitty was hurt in 2004. Problem is that Jake is remembered too much for 2009 and not enough for the rest of his career here. It wasn't his fault he got hurt which derailed his career. I remember him waiting almost 5 weeks in 2007 to get surgery hoping he could play. He embodied everything good about the Panthers. I doubt either gets a statue but if the choice were between Jake or Peppers it wouldn't be close. Jake lived and breathed to play for us, Peppers in the end didn't really care and left here for less money. I wouldn't give a statue to a player who didn't even want to be here.

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If you would prefer Jake over Pep, you know nothing about the Panthers, nor football...

In your opinion though. That isn't the truth though & that is fact. Please don't label people as not knowing a damn about the Panthers or football just because you don't agree with their opinion. You're not Jerry Richardson.

But then you're no difference than BDJS with being a BPJS based on that Pep was in for the money & didn't want to be here. I will never support a player who doesn't want to be here. Now who is the one that know about Panthers? :P :lurk5:

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lol @ the Pep hatred running rampant throughout the Huddle...

If you would prefer Jake over Pep, you know nothing about the Panthers, nor football...

Unless I'm misunderstanding the thread, this isn't about the player, it's about the person.

I already said in my first post I'd rather take Peppers over Delhomme because he's one of the best at what he does. This was about who you'll miss, not who is the better player.

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I stuck by Jake long after my friends gave up on him...but after watching many games during this (oh so long) off season I cant help but to look at almost every one of Jakes passes just him throwing it up...Smith made Jake.

Peppers - Im gonna miss him the most. Being a Peppers fan hasnt been easy last couple of years. Hard to like a guy who 'doesnt want to be a Panther'.

I really hope Peppers will be back in a few years to close out his career.

Dude, I'm definitely going to miss Jake the most b/c he LOVED playing for us...unlike Peppers. Jake actually cried during his interview after being released, Peppers just suddenly became a jackass, talked about how much he loves Chicago & jacked off in his apartment. I can't wait to play Peppers this season...ugh, loser

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Dude, I'm definitely going to miss Jake the most b/c he LOVED playing for us...unlike Peppers. Jake actually cried during his interview after being released, Peppers just suddenly became a jackass, talked about how much he loves Chicago & jacked off in his apartment. I can't wait to play Peppers this season...ugh, loser

Be careful what you wish for. I see Peppers having a big game against his former team.

Anyways, Im one of the few that hopes Peppers will somehow comeback to the Panthers one day and retire a Panther.

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Be careful what you wish for. I see Peppers having a big game against his former team.

Anyways, Im one of the few that hopes Peppers will somehow comeback to the Panthers one day and retire a Panther.

Yeah good point. I do have a lot of faith in Gross though so we'll see...if he's still healthy

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Yeah good point. I do have a lot of faith in Gross though so we'll see...if he's still healthy

Yeah. That will be quite exciting to see the 2 clashes for real this time than they do on practice. Hopefully Gross will handle him like he did against Abraham last year one time.

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yea, its obvious that it will be harder to replace peppers than it will be to replace jake. moore or claussen will be an upgrade.

i guess i am just still butthurt about peppers leaving the dline in the shape that it is in. i tried to find a way to spin it so that i could say i would miss jake more. oh well, i just liked the guy. i wish jake well, and we'll see both of them this year, i cant wait!

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LMFAO @ all of these "miss the player I miss the most or you know nothing about football" posts.

Yes, Jake was a great dude and probably did overachieve. But even if he did overachieve he was still a slightly above average QB at best who had the luxury of throwing to two pro bowl receivers and a strong running game to bail him out when he played poorly which happened more times than people seem to remember. For every game that Jake supposively "won" for us all by himself from 2003-2005 he lost just as many by himself from 2006-2009. Point blank when you evaluate his career as a panther he was an average QB that played on a team with a good defense and had players on offesne that could bail him out to make him look better than he was. Its silly to say that Jake was better than Pep because he won more games for us when he plays the only position that touches the football on every single play unlike a DE who rarely does. There isnt a DE in the NFL that wins games soley by himself so the comparion makes no sense. Peppers has always been one of the best at his position regardless of his supposive lack of desire where Jake for the most part has always been mediocre even if he did a better job slapping his teammates on the asses than Pep did.

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