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#46 cbarrier90

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Posted 08 July 2010 - 11:53 PM

Who did you have in mind?


Dwyane Wade in 2006. Shaq was already on his way down...

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Posted 08 July 2010 - 11:56 PM

Dwyane Wade in 2006. Shaq was already on his way down...


You forgot about dick bavetta, Joey Crawford, and Bennett Salvatore.

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Posted 08 July 2010 - 11:56 PM

Who did you have in mind?


Elgin Baylor came damn close to doing it as a rookie. Took a slow crappy lakers team that went 19-53 the year before to the Finals.

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Posted 08 July 2010 - 11:57 PM

Dwyane Wade in 2006. Shaq was already on his way down...

Shaq was all NBA first team that year. . .

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Posted 08 July 2010 - 11:59 PM

Dwyane Wade in 2006. Shaq was already on his way down...


Shaq was on the decline but was still an all star big man who averaged 20 and 9 that season. Since that year, Miami has been swept out of the first round once, and lost there every year.

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 12:00 AM

Dwyane Wade in 2006. Shaq was already on his way down...


That's bull he averaged 20 points per game that year

He also had Alonzo Mourning, Udonis Haslem, Earl Barron, Derek Anderson, Jason Kapono, Shandon Anderson, Micahel Doleac, Gary Payton, James Posey, Wayne Simien, Antoine Walker, Jason Williams, and Dorell Wright.

#52 cbarrier90

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 12:00 AM

Name me one player that has one an NBA Championship by himself?


That's not what I was saying. You suggest that Pippen was more than just a role player, while I maintain that his individual accomplishments are just a reflection of his playing with the greatest of all time, Jordan. Championships are a moot point.

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 12:01 AM

Who did you have in mind?


Big Timmy or Wade.

But obviously not one man is going to win a championship, A lot of the people's complaints is that Megastar Lebron is joining two other Superstars to win.

I'm glad he didn't choose Cleveland, because they never truly gave Lebron the pieces to win a Ring. Even if he stayed I doubt they would have made any moves.

The one thing that peeves me is that Lebron always tried to emulate Jordan's career and impact on the game. Both On the court and Off, but going on T.V to take a piss on Cleveland was very selfish and just as classless as the Owner's letter to Cleveland, followed up by bending over to Wade in Miami just does not sit right with me.

But at the end of the day, Lebron will ultimately get his rings, but in reality his legacy will be tarnished and everybody knows it.

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 12:02 AM

Elgin Baylor came damn close to doing it as a rookie. Took a slow crappy lakers team that went 19-53 the year before to the Finals.


LeBron almost came close himself though.

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 12:03 AM

That's bull he averaged 20 points per game that year

He also had Alonzo Mourning, Udonis Haslem, Earl Barron, Derek Anderson, Jason Kapono, Shandon Anderson, Micahel Doleac, Gary Payton, James Posey, Wayne Simien, Antoine Walker, Jason Williams, and Dorell Wright.


You serious man? The Heat getting that ring was at the very least 80% because of Wade.

Seriously Antoine Walker?

:lol:

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 12:03 AM

Pippen is hard to gauge. Some people think Jordan made him and deserves all the credit. Others describe Pippen as arguably the greatest perimeter defender in NBA history and a guy who was willing to do whatever his team needed. Whether that was bringing the ball up the court, hitting 3s in transition, checking the other team's best player (so Jordan didnt have to), or finishing on the fast break. Pip in his prime could do it all. IMO, he's 1 of the best small forwards of all time. I dont think he had the leadership ability or toughness to carry a team by himself, but along with Jordan he was the perfect compliment in the triangle O.

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 12:04 AM

All I am saying is LeBron wants a ring and he knows he can't do it himself so he is going to surround himself by other superstars.

King Wade
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Posted 09 July 2010 - 12:04 AM

You serious man? The Heat getting that ring was at the very least 80% because of Wade.

Seriously Antoine Walker?

:lol:


Averaged 13 points per game that season.

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 12:04 AM

Gerald Wallace is often at times compared to Pippen.

Pippen was a legit #2 to Jordan and not his lackey.

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 12:09 AM

Yeah, thats what I am saying. Everyone thinks Pippen was a role player that just lived in MJ's shadow.

Well here are some of Pippen's accomplishments

  • 6x NBA Champion (1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998)
  • 7x NBA All-Star (1990, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997)
  • 1× NBA All-Star Game MVP (1994)
  • 3× All-NBA First Team Selection (1994–1996)
  • 2× All-NBA Second Team Selection (1992, 1997)
  • 2× All-NBA Third Team Selection (1993, 1998)
  • 8× NBA All-Defensive First Team Selection (1992–1999)
  • 2× NBA All-Defensive Second Team Selection (1991, 2000)
  • Chicago Bulls #33 Retired
  • NBA's 50th Anniversary All-Time Team

Yeah, Pippen was just a role player. HA!


Exactly

Just curious, how many of those accomplishments came after he and Jordan separated?

Surely a player of as great a caliber as you say Pippen is would have been able to give the Blazers a title (even if they were all in jail.)


After Jordan when to baseball for a minute Pippen and the bulls were very competitive in the EC Playoffs..... Lets see how competitive Cleveland is next year without James.... Can they drop off 40 wins because one guy left???? What would that mean...


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