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Bobcats close to trading Diaw, Chandler, aquiring Calderon


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#151 CarolinaPanthers8789

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Posted 13 July 2010 - 11:45 AM

Aran Smith: we have been informed by his agent that ajinca of charlotte Bobcats is being traded Twitter

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Posted 13 July 2010 - 11:47 AM

Aran Smith: we have been informed by his agent that ajinca of charlotte Bobcats is being traded Twitter


Colangelo is big on the European guys. There's a lot more going on with this trade than what the media knows, that's for certain. We all need to just sit back and let MJ work.

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Posted 13 July 2010 - 11:50 AM

The Bobcats have reportedly pulled out of a trade that would have sent center Tyson Chandler to Toronto.

Chandler may have actually been the sticking point, as the Bobcats don't have enough frontcourt depth to absorb his absence. His expiring contract is also a valuable trade chip, and Charlotte obviously wants to make the most of it.

Boris Diaw will remain in Charlotte for at least a while longer, after the Bobcats scrapped a trade that would have sent him to Toronto.

Diaw started to settle into the Bobcats' offense last season, but wasn't the same fantasy player once Stephen Jackson came to town. It's unclear whether he's being actively shopped around by Charlotte, but obviously he can be had for the right price.

The Bobcats have canceled the reported trade that would have sent Boris Diaw and Tyson Chandler to the Raptors in exchange for Jose Calderon and Reggie Evans.

Team owner Michael Jordan apparently had second thoughts about giving up Tyson Chandler, leading to an 11th hour retraction. He's not helping his image as a fumbling executive, and the Bobcats are still left without a starter-quality point guard. Back to the drawing board.

Take all these little messages for what it's worth, however I still think the deal will go through. MJ is just making sure we do not get scammed and honestly he did pull out at the right time. With A.J. no longer an option there are absolutely no quality centers out there. BC will bite and probably take Alexis Ajinca and Boris Diaw, maybe for Joey Dorsey and Jose Calderon?

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Posted 13 July 2010 - 11:55 AM

According to Doug Smith of the Toronto Star, this deal is indeed dead.

Calderon and Evans remain in Toronto. Chandler and Diaw remain in Charlotte.

However, Turkoglu will still go from Toronto to the Suns for Barbosa as the only part of this trade that is still a go.


From ESPN Insider.

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Posted 13 July 2010 - 11:59 AM

From ESPN Insider.


I'm still going to stick by what the guys said on Rufus on Fire. This deal isn't dead yet.

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Posted 13 July 2010 - 12:29 PM

You can't point the blame on MJ because a four-team deal fell apart in reguards to the Beasley trade. And I really feel that MJ is right in holding out Tyson Chandler, even if this deal is dead. Chandler would have essentially been a throw-in to this deal, and his expiring contract has much more value than that. With possibly the best available center, Al Jefferson, going to the Jazz, Chandler may now be the top option for teams looking for a big man. Chandler's value to us, and to everyone else has gone up.

At least we know that MJ and company are actively trying to make the team better. While his drafting hasn't been that great, a lot of the recent trades have been spot-on. I trust what MJ and Larry Brown are doing.


I give you the Beasley trade, but why were they so far into this Chandler trade if it was a bad trade for the bobcats to begin with? Chandler was convinced he was traded and most reported this trade as being done and only needing league approval.

Indecisiveness... MJ and company wasted Toronto and Phoenix's time while creating a bad impression of the Bobcats organization to all the players involved. That's how this whole thing appears to me. All signs point to a last second moments of the bobcats second guessing themselves which is a sign of weakness and suggests someone didn't realize what they were giving up to begin with.

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Posted 13 July 2010 - 01:08 PM

I give you the Beasley trade, but why were they so far into this Chandler trade if it was a bad trade for the bobcats to begin with? Chandler was convinced he was traded and most reported this trade as being done and only needing league approval.

Indecisiveness... MJ and company wasted Toronto and Phoenix's time while creating a bad impression of the Bobcats organization to all the players involved. That's how this whole thing appears to me. All signs point to a last second moments of the bobcats second guessing themselves which is a sign of weakness and suggests someone didn't realize what they were giving up to begin with.


How many times have "SOURCES" by ESPN, Yahoo, or other outlets been wrong? How many times have we read about a trade that never happened. Unfortunately we do not know what exactly happened or why the trade hasn't gone through yet but I don't think we should paint the Bobcats organization and MJ has indecisive and wasting another teams time. The only thing we can do is wait and see.

Now my opinion is simple I like the fact that they are trying to free up some money. Getting Diaw off the roster would have been great. Everyone talks about a 12m expiring Chandler that is so attractive to have. Well sorry IMO the 2011 free agent class is nothing like the 2010 class so his expiring is not that important. Maybe the when Diops contract is up that might be in a year worth something so we will see.

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Posted 13 July 2010 - 01:21 PM

I give you the Beasley trade, but why were they so far into this Chandler trade if it was a bad trade for the bobcats to begin with? Chandler was convinced he was traded and most reported this trade as being done and only needing league approval.

Indecisiveness... MJ and company wasted Toronto and Phoenix's time while creating a bad impression of the Bobcats organization to all the players involved. That's how this whole thing appears to me. All signs point to a last second moments of the bobcats second guessing themselves which is a sign of weakness and suggests someone didn't realize what they were giving up to begin with.

They were negotiating. Deals fall apart at the 11th hour all the time in the NBA. We also don't have any idea what the various trade structures were being discussed, especially when you look at all the different versions the Toronto media reported. The lastest deal that was reported was decidedly in Toronto's favor, so it only makes sense that we were trying to negotiate for something more, and killed the deal when Toronto refused.

The real problem here is that the Raptors were far too loose lipped about a deal that had not been finalized. You should NEVER put anything about making a trade on your team page until that trade has been agreed upon in all parts, and the league office has approved it, and the media should confirm the facts before running with a story, neither of which happened up in the Great White North. That's what got the fans all worked up.

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Posted 13 July 2010 - 01:21 PM

Maybe the when Diops contract is up that might be in a year worth something so we will see.


We have Diop for another 4 years. There is no getting rid of him.

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Posted 13 July 2010 - 01:22 PM

Just Some More Info (By the way don't be suprised if this trade gets done later in the month or something like that)

It appears that the Toronto Raptors are not going to jettison their two most-burdensome contracts in one deft move. While Hedo Turkoglu is still likely heading to Phoenix, a related deal that would have sent point guard Jose Calderon and forward Reggie Evans to Charlotte for forward Boris Diaw and centre Tyson Chandler appears dead due to hesitation from the Bobcats’ end. One source with knowledge of the trade said the deal was likely dead, but did not give up hope that it could be revived later on Tuesday.

Source: National Post

The part of a complex Raptors deal that would have sent Jose Calderon and Reggie Evans to Charlotte is dead, killed by Bobcats owner Michael Jordan according to league sources. The teams had signed off on the transaction that would have shipped Boris Diaw and Tyson Chandler to Toronto early Monday afternoon – with Chandler being told he was to become a Raptor – before it died later in the day.

Source: Toronto Star

A proposed trade that would have brought Toronto Raptors point guard Jose Calderon to the Charlotte Bobcats is on hold and might be dead, according to a source connected to one of the three teams involved. The Bobcats have expressed reservations about going through with the deal that also involves the Phoenix Suns. That is despite them informing players of the possibility they would be traded. Bobcats center Tyson Chandler had already expressed to Yahoo! Sports that in his mind he was already a Raptor.

Source: Charlotte Observer

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Posted 13 July 2010 - 01:33 PM

Bummer on the trade being dead or basically dead.

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Posted 13 July 2010 - 01:40 PM

I still think something else will happen really soon. We just aren't willing to give up Tyson just yet. I see Boris and Alexis being sent somewhere but for who I don't know.

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Posted 13 July 2010 - 01:41 PM

Also one of the reasons being listed is that Jose Calderon has a 10 percent trade increase in his contract on top of the 29 million he's already owed.

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Posted 13 July 2010 - 02:17 PM

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Posted 13 July 2010 - 02:17 PM

lol