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We're in the top 10 for something...

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I was reading an article by Michael Lombardi this afternoon and came across this strange statistic in which we were tied for 9th in the league last season.

rushing attempts + passing completions

I always review how many rushing attempts and pass completions a team amassed after each game. To me, this statistic is symbolic of a team's ability to execute in each aspect of its offense. Here are last year's top performers:

2009 rushes and completions

Patriots, 856

Saints, 846

Vikings, 844

Dolphins, 840

Texans, 824

Jets, 817

Packers, 795

Bengals, 791

Ravens, 789

Panthers, 789

What's interesting about this statistic is that eight of the top 12 went to the playoffs last season. From another perspective, it indicates which teams can operate their offense effectively. There are exceptions. The Eagles are toward the bottom, but are a great quick-strike offense (scores on drives of less than four plays), which is why they led the league in that statistic.

Therefore, this season when reviewing the statistics after each game, do as many in the NFL do and add these two numbers together and see which team wins.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81912e4e/article/teams-believing-in-convenient-truths-as-camps-approach

In all fairness this could simply be attributed to our tireless running game and nothing more, but it is an interesting stat nonetheless and makes you wonder if our offense is more formidable than analysts make it seem. Hmmm...

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Were they including Delhomme's passes to the opposition as complete?

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Were they including Delhomme's passes to the opposition as complete?

:lol:

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Were they including Delhomme's passes to the opposition as complete?

Count those and we're in first place ;)

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since coming into the league in 1995,the panthers are 2nd in defensive take a ways only behind the new england patriots

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If these stats can stay the same or get a little better and our defense stays consistent, we might just be on the verge of a great year.

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since coming into the league in 1995,the panthers are 2nd in defensive take a ways only behind the new england patriots

Since October 2002, on Sundays following a holiday in the early Fall, when the temperature is between 55-67 degrees Fahrenheit 3 and a half hours before kickoff, the Panthers (1 stop) are second behind the Colts (2 stops) for the most defensive stops on third down after 2 consecutive draw plays between the 36-42 yard line of the opposing team. :D

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If these stats can stay the same or get a little better and our defense stays consistent, we might just be on the verge of a great year.

Retract that statement immediately. Optimism about this season is strictly prohibited here.

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yeah, I was trying to think of something to counter it, but the blood left my brain.

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if you are trying to measure a team's "ability to execute," don't you think you should, at a minimum, measure rushing attempts for positive yardage, or rushing attempts for say 3.3+ yards (average required to reach a first down when running three downs in a row), rather than just rushing attempts?

according to lombardi's logic, a team that did nothing but run the ball would have the highest "ability to execute" out of any team in the league. seems like amateur hour in the stats dept to me.

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if you are trying to measure a team's "ability to execute," don't you think you should, at a minimum, measure rushing attempts for positive yardage, or rushing attempts for say 3.3+ yards (average required to reach a first down when running three downs in a row), rather than just rushing attempts?

according to lombardi's logic, a team that did nothing but run the ball would have the highest "ability to execute" out of any team in the league. seems like amateur hour in the stats dept to me.

That isn't true at all. What he is measuring is the total number of offensive rushing plays and successful passing plays (completed passes). The top team NE threw much more than they ran. But they were able to sustain drives which is what they were measuring. The top five teams all threw more than they ran. The team that ran the most last year was 6th- the Jets and we were second and came in tenth.

The reason a team that ran all the time wouldn't lead the league is because they would not sustain drives and would have a ton of three and outs.

If you want to measure offensive efficiency there are much easier stats. How about the most first downs per game. Here is the list for the regular season.

New England

New Orleans

Minnesota

Houston Texans

Indianapolis

Dallas Cowboys

Green Bay Packers

Miami Dolphins

Pittsburgh Steelers

Atlanta Falcons

San Diego Chargers

New York Giants.

9 of the 12 were playoff teams.

How about points per game??

Saints

Vikings

Packers

Chargers

Eagles

Patriots

Colts

Giants

Ravens

Texans

Cardinals

Steelers

Regardless of the defense, the highest scoring teams were very likely to make the playoffs. Welcome to rocket science 102.

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if you are trying to measure a team's "ability to execute," don't you think you should, at a minimum, measure rushing attempts for positive yardage, or rushing attempts for say 3.3+ yards (average required to reach a first down when running three downs in a row), rather than just rushing attempts?

according to lombardi's logic, a team that did nothing but run the ball would have the highest "ability to execute" out of any team in the league. seems like amateur hour in the stats dept to me.

Not really, because all the teams on this list have high time of possession. If they were bad in the run game, they wouldn't have high TOP. This stat Lombardi speaks of is about ability to move the chains and keep the ball for long periods, which tires out the defense and gives your defense a rest.

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