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#25 stankowalski

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Posted 11 January 2009 - 02:58 PM

Did you watch the game?

Pep didn't do anything...besides the play at the beginning.

Brayton was putting pressure on Warner, even Johnson did...Pep...not at all.

No I didn't watch the game, not any...ever. If you guys are comfortable with our defensive line without Peppers, then more power to you. I'm just telling you what I think is going to happen if we let him go. Brayton and Johnson rarely get double teamed on passing downs. When was the last time you saw a team keep in a back to chip on Brayton or Johnson?

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Posted 11 January 2009 - 02:59 PM

Jake will be here. Pep won't. We supposedly offered him all we could and it's been on the table, he hasn't accepted. He doesn't want to be here. So let's franchise him trade him out of the conference and get a quality replacement with the picks.

And I think he's worth more than Jared Allen because of his athleticism and coverage skills.

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Posted 11 January 2009 - 03:00 PM

If he or Trgovac need help packing, I am available today

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Posted 11 January 2009 - 03:01 PM

How much will Cassel get in the FA market?

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Posted 11 January 2009 - 03:02 PM

If Peppers doesn't want to hang and we do wind up having to rebuild the defensive line, we could do a lot worse than several draft picks or even more than one first round pick. There are FOs out there that would deal us that for Peppers.

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Posted 11 January 2009 - 03:03 PM

No I didn't watch the game, not any...ever. If you guys are comfortable with our defensive line without Peppers, then more power to you. I'm just telling you what I think is going to happen if we let him go. Brayton and Johnson rarely get double teamed on passing downs. When was the last time you saw a team keep in a back to chip on Brayton or Johnson?


I want him here... But if he doesn't want to be here, and money obviously isn't the issue, we can't do anything about it. So, I'm just saying where do we go from here, what do we get in return?

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Posted 11 January 2009 - 03:04 PM

ill take him opposite joey porter :)

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Posted 11 January 2009 - 03:05 PM

No I didn't watch the game, not any...ever. If you guys are comfortable with our defensive line without Peppers, then more power to you. I'm just telling you what I think is going to happen if we let him go. Brayton and Johnson rarely get double teamed on passing downs. When was the last time you saw a team keep in a back to chip on Brayton or Johnson?



The Pep being double teamed all the time is a myth. It is not true. Plus, if you want to even give Pep that arguement - all the top DE in the league are doubled yet seem to create more havic, and dominate on a much more consistent basis.

I think alot of us fans are not saying Peppers is not a good player and we would want him on the team. The problem is the kind of money he is going to demand.

I do feel that the coaching and scheme is part of the problem. I would prefer a much more aggressive overall style then this bend dont break, soft zone, cushion crap.

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Posted 11 January 2009 - 03:05 PM

Peppers stopped playing well last year as to not get hurt going into his contract year this year

All of a sudden he has 14 sacks during a contract year

Next year he will have the cash and revert to playing like last year

Get rid of him and his salary and get some DE's and DT's that want to be here and can actually rush the passer and stop the run...oh, another QB would be nice too!

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Posted 11 January 2009 - 03:05 PM

I want him here... But if he doesn't want to be here, and money obviously isn't the issue, we can't do anything about it. So, I'm just saying where do we go from here, what do we get in return?

Hey if Peppers doesn't want to be here, then I say we get as much as we can for him. I don't know Peppers personally so I don't know what he wants to do. But if he does want to leave then that tells me more about his opinion of the coaching staff than anything else.

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Posted 11 January 2009 - 03:07 PM

The Pep being double teamed all the time is a myth. It is not true. Plus, if you want to even give Pep that arguement - all the top DE in the league are doubled yet seem to create more havic, and dominate on a much more consistent basis.

I think alot of us fans are not saying Peppers is not a good player and we would want him on the team. The problem is the kind of money he is going to demand.

I do feel that the coaching and scheme is part of the problem. I would prefer a much more aggressive overall style then this bend dont break, soft zone, cushion crap.

You hit the nail on the head in the latter part of your post. The problem isn't Pep, it's the scheme. You put Pep in with a good defensive coordinator and he will tear poo up.

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Posted 11 January 2009 - 03:07 PM

Hey if Peppers doesn't want to be here, then I say we get as much as we can for him. I don't know Peppers personally so I don't know what he wants to do. But if he does want to leave then that tells me more about his opinion of the coaching staff than anything else.


this is what we were all saying last year about jason taylor....if he didnt wanna be there we didnt want him....well we got rid of him at the perfect time, getting a 2nd round pick for a 35 yr old twilight DEnd....perfect move, and i couldnt be happier about it!