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8/4 & 8/5 Training Camp Observations

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Thanks for the update. Good info about the passing game. From what I gather from this board it seems like Matt Moore is having an excellent camp. If Clausen was pushing him for the starting job at this point I would have thought we'd be in trouble. But it seems like he is the clear #1, That also means that Smitty won't have to adjust to a new QB when he comes back in Sept. Hope lafell and Jarrett can contribute. Edwards contributing in the passing game seems remote. Love the TE situation...not too sure about the FB situation...

I'd like to hear more about the defense and how they are coming along. Some good comments about E Brown. Speed is what this defense is all about, so his quickness is key. What about the DTs, How are Anderson and COnner looking? How are our DB's looking, esp Martin...?

THanks again for the update.

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14. Saw Thomas Davis wearing a boot on Thursday. Saw Goodson wearing a leg brace.

seems like that would be the other way around....anyway thanks for the update dude

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Steve Smith looked GREAT in his drills. Wednesday they incorporated hurdles and a few tosses his way. I never saw Steve go anything less than full speed. He definitely is one of the hardest worker and lives up to his reputation. He was VERY quick and seemed to make the catches without a problem. He also threw a pass back to his coach and it looked great with speed and a nice spiral

Wildcat? :P

In all seriousness, thanks for the very thorough write up. You've hit on some things that others haven't, but I also like reading the same things over and over because it means everybody is seeing it. I'm particularly happy to read that Moore and LaFell look good -- I think we've got our second and third receivers in those guys.

I also love hearing that Moore has really taken his new role seriously. I can't wait to see what that guy can do now that he's actually coming into the season as the unquestioned starter.

Does Edwards really look that impressive returning? I'm rooting for the guy and it does sound like he's improving in that regard every day, but I really thought Witherspoon would win that job. He's very quick and has the experience. But if Edwards can win it, I guess that's all the better. I just thought he'd take a bit of time to learn the returner and receiver positions.

Thanks again for the report.

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Good write-up...

Matt Moore definitely looked good when I was there last week, and hopefully he will continue where he left off last year. He seems to have great chemistry with WR Kenny Moore (who impressed when I was there and evidently has all camp long) and the TE's. I saw King and Barnidge make some great catches.

One thing I saw that really impressed me too is that they seem to be running a lot more seam routes with the TE straight up the middle (and executing). I am excited about that b/c a lot of times it seemed Jake either went long down field or dumped to the backs.

I really don't think Jarrett will make this roster, unfortunately. He makes some catches but he is never consistent enough. I think right now Kenny Moore will be starting week 1 across from Smitty and LeFell will probably be the #3. Wallace Wright is a special teams ace and he can catch, and I think he will be the active #4 on game days. Armanti Edwards will be kept as the #5 receiver and as a PR/KR. There is an outside chance there will be another returner kept like Trent Guy, Dexter Jackson, etc. but they will be expected to contribute on special teams and Jarrett does not. Jarrett is the biggest reciever they have, but he looks like he is the absolute slowest on the roster getting out of his breaks and most of the balls he catches are where he comes across the middle and shields the defender to make the catch. I don't think he can ever consistently be anything mosre than a possesion receiver. And while I think he is probably better as a WR than Wallace Wright, his lack of playing special teams and not being able to capture one of the top 3 spots means he will be on the outside looking in.

It's harder to gauge the defense b/c everyone goes to training camp for the most part wanting to see the offense, but the defense does look very fast this year, but not as big as other teams.

Beason is definitely the most vocal guy out there and flies around everywhere. There are a LOT of new guys out there, and the defensive coaches are talking (and yelling) and hopefully coaching a lot.

I think the defense will be OK. Probably not dominant but Fox is a very good defensive coach and I think these guys will get good enough coaching to be a respectable unit.

Our offense is going to have to score some points, though, no doubt. And I think we have the potential to do that.

Regardless, I think this team will be exciting to watch. There is definitely a lot of energy out there with these young guys.

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Thanks for the update. Good info about the passing game. From what I gather from this board it seems like Matt Moore is having an excellent camp. If Clausen was pushing him for the starting job at this point I would have thought we'd be in trouble. But it seems like he is the clear #1, That also means that Smitty won't have to adjust to a new QB when he comes back in Sept. Hope lafell and Jarrett can contribute. Edwards contributing in the passing game seems remote. Love the TE situation...not too sure about the FB situation...

I'd like to hear more about the defense and how they are coming along. Some good comments about E Brown. Speed is what this defense is all about, so his quickness is key. What about the DTs, How are Anderson and COnner looking? How are our DB's looking, esp Martin...?

THanks again for the update.

It is definitely Matt Moore's job to lose. That said, when last asked about the QB situation Fox said Moore is looking great but production on the field is all that matters.

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Everyone seems to be mentioning Beason's obvious leadership (we know this). But I don't think I've seen anyone directly mention how he is interacting with Connor. I'm curious if he's been hands off to an extent, or if he's giving Connor direction. A lack of interaction would sigal great confidence in Connor from Beason, which to me would men a lot more than praise from coaches, etc. After all, this is the guy taking over his position...a position he dominates.

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I'm getting pretty excited about Kenny Moore. It sounds like he has been working extremely hard this off-season. If he could come out and be a legitimate down-field threat this year it would help our passing game immensely. Moore and Lafell out wide with Smitty in the slot...that could be lethal.

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How big is Kenny Moore? The reason I ask is that there is no way we do not have a big blocking WR as the #2 with Smitty....just completely against everythign that Fox believes in.

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Excellent, thanks...

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I think Lafell will be #2 and Moore will be the third WR, who may play on the outside as Smith moves inside. Jarrett will not make it past the cuts. Someone like Denver will sign him immediately. Gettis may have special teams value as well, with his size and speed. For the third preseason game, when the starters get the most time, I expect to see the following (please disagree with some of these because I am very unsure of some):

RG: Duke Robinson (very questionable)

WR: Smith, Lafell. -- Moore, Wright, Edwards (D. Jackson and Gettis to PS?)

LB: Connor, Beason, Williams

FS: Martin (working him at SS when the go cover 3 is confusing to me).

Questions: What can Jarrett do that Barnidge/Rosario can't? What does Jarrett have to offer special teams? A: Nothing in both cases.

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I'd like to hear more about the defense and how they are coming along. Some good comments about E Brown. Speed is what this defense is all about, so his quickness is key. What about the DTs, How are Anderson and COnner looking? How are our DB's looking, esp Martin...?

I can't remember off the top of my head how the DBs were looking. I saw a few picks but cannot for the life of me recall who did them.

And I honestly cannot recall anything about Conner or Anderson that stood out to me. Sorry. I was focusing a lot more on our Offense and just saw the Defense generally on Wednesday.

When I watched the Defense on Wednesday, Beason was definitely displaying his leadership and I really do not recall him having to tell Conner anything.

seems like that would be the other way around....anyway thanks for the update dude

Davis had a knee type brace and Goodson had a a big walking boot. Sorry I think I mixed 'em up.

Wildcat? :P

Does Edwards really look that impressive returning? I'm rooting for the guy and it does sound like he's improving in that regard every day, but I really thought Witherspoon would win that job. He's very quick and has the experience. But if Edwards can win it, I guess that's all the better. I just thought he'd take a bit of time to learn the returner and receiver positions.

Thanks again for the report.

Haha yeah that's what I thought when I saw Smitty throw it like that.

The way they were lining up yesterday had Edwards returning first. It's hard to say "impressive" returning at this point as they are not going against anyone. But he was "impressive" in the regards of not dropping or fumbling any. It will definitely take him some time to learn the WR role but he is VERY athletic and shouldn't have a problem learning.

I went to App State for undergrad and Edwards definitely has the heart and athleticism that should pay off in the long run.

Looking forward to some football.

Forgot to say on a sidenote, I spoke to Gross about the Chicago game. In short, he's looking forward to it.

The starting QB job is definitely Moore's to lose and he seems so far ahead of everyone at this point. I believe we have a SOLID trio of TEs.

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