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#1 Moonshine

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 02:22 PM

Which is almost all of you.....


Help me figure out how much cap space is available if we don't resign Peppers and release Lucus. I know that we don't have a clue what Peps proposed contract would look like but I think we can all assume that it would have to be a top 5 at his position kind of deal. I don't think he would stay here for less.

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 02:24 PM

I think I heard $10 mil on the radio earlier -- not sure!!

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 02:28 PM

teams that want to stay competitive do not resign guys in their late 20's for record breaking deals....

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 02:36 PM

teams that want to stay competitive do not resign guys in their late 20's for record breaking deals....


Not advocating such. I simply want to know..... if we don't have to pay those two guys, how much money will we have to go out and replace them? Lucus will have some sort of cap hit for the remainder of his contract and Pep will free up what we would have paid him. So in eqaution form it would be something like this.

Avail$ = Pep$ + (Luc$ - SalryCap BS)

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 02:38 PM

Not advocating such. I simply want to know..... if we don't have to pay those two guys, how much money will we have to go out and replace them? Lucus will have some sort of cap hit for the remainder of his contract and Pep will free up what we would have paid him. So in eqaution form it would be something like this.

Avail$ = Pep$ + (Luc$ - SalryCap BS)


with the cap going up and what Peppers and Gross were already making this year, if the FO wanted to sign them then they easily could without making drastic changes

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 02:43 PM

If Peppers already turned down Freeny money as rumored, then we should let him walk. He isn't worth 100 million at his age, plus we apparently are going to need to chase a CB in FA. I hear Haynesworth is available as well and I read last week he listed Carolina as one of the places he would like to play, although he might demand the same amount as Peppers, but who knows.

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 02:46 PM

They could also franchise Pep and then trade him to a bad team for a decent first round pick (which we need this year) and use the pick to draft a DE. Cut Lucus and use the cap space (from trading Pep and cutting Lucus) to go sign a free agent DB and a safety. All the while having enough to resign Gross and keep some continuity on the O-line which was the best we've had in years.

Just thinkin' out loud...

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 02:48 PM

I have a question. Does anyone know the rules on swapping franchised players? Just throwing this out there, but let's say NE franchises Cassel and Panthers franchise Peppers. Can you do a straight swap on franchised players or do draft picks still have to change hands? Just thinking out loud as well..

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 02:55 PM

I have a question. Does anyone know the rules on swapping franchised players? Just throwing this out there, but let's say NE franchises Cassel and Panthers franchise Peppers. Can you do a straight swap on franchised players or do draft picks still have to change hands? Just thinking out loud as well..


Cassel was franchised because Brady isn't recovering as fast as they had hoped. Cassel is worth more to the Pats then Peppers would be at the moment.

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 02:56 PM

Yea, I know, it's a hypothetical question. Never heard of swapping franchised players.

#11 Mr.Ponche

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 03:00 PM

Actually,releasing Jake will free up over 6 million in cap room.

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 03:02 PM

Actually,releasing Jake will free up over 6 million in cap room.


Is that including the roster bonus he gets later this year? I just heard bits & pieces on the radio during my lunch ride.

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 03:13 PM

We will not let him walk. We will get some Draft picks from him before we send him on his way. Thats IF he goes.

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 05:21 PM

What about trading Peppers for at 1st round and some more. We could use the 1st round on CB Malcolm Jenkins???


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