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#1 walt227

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 02:27 PM

I want to apologize in advance for the long post. I need to vent...

A couple weeks ago I called in to Panther talk and posed this question to Eugene Robinson:

Why does everyone who gets paid to talk about football have so much faith in Delhomme while the rest of us nearly have a heart attack every time he rolls out of the pocket?

He turned it around on me with the following questions:
Q: Since becoming a starter, what has Jake done for the team?
A: Super Bowl appearance, 3 trips to the playoffs including 2 trips to the NFC championship.
Q: What happened last year without him?
A: 7-9. But we also set a record for starting the most QBs in a single season. Lack of depth at teh QB position is deathly obvious.
Q: How did fans feel about Eli Manning last year, and look what he accomplished?
A: I'm not comparing Eli Manning to Jake. Eli is arrogant and was forced to prove himself under his own terms.
Q: Would Jake not have a Super Bowl ring if Kasay hadn't kicked the ball out of bounds?
A: Impossible to answer. (What I wanted to say was I wonder if you would have the Bart Starr award if you would have been arrested for soliticiting prostitution before receiving the award and thus blowing coverage in one of the biggest bonehead moments in Super Bowl history)
Q: Do you not think Jake has what it takes to lead this team to a Super Bowl victory?
A: Not unless he remembers there is a "blind-side".

Robinson then went on to basically call me a dumbass and took the next call. Well guess what---6 turnovers and no more Carolina football for 7 months. Ok, it's not all 17's fault. Why we abandoned the run is beyond belief. Why we played zone D and left Fitzgerald all alone in the flats time after time absolutely amazes me. So what do we do?

>>J Pepp--adios---thanks for the memories
>>Jake---5mil a year pay cut and a trip to the #2 spoet. "Mini-Me, move down the bench"
>>Graham Harrell---threw for nearly 4800 yards last season and is expected to go 3rd or 4th roud. Think about it.
>>Gamble---we've gambled on you too long. Don't let the door hit you in the ass.
>>Lucas---a good play here and there doesn't cut it in the NFL. report upstairs imeediately and bring your playbook.
>>Jeff Davidson---the run got us there, so WTF? If I were Eric Cartman I'd kick you "squah in the beanbag"
>>John fox---Oh Johnny Boy. You're the coaching equivalent of Jake Delhomme. Everybody likes your heart-on-the-sleve style and modest ego. We also like to win outright instead of squeezing out these 3 pointers at the buzzer. Get it together, or you're done after next season. Sorry.

Ahhh....I feel better.

Edited by walt227, 12 January 2009 - 02:41 PM.


#2 ShutDwn

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 02:31 PM

You'd get rid of Gamble? Are you serious?

#3 walt227

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 02:40 PM

You'd get rid of Gamble? Are you serious?



In the last eight games our defense allowed over 28ppg. Yes, I would get rid of Gamble. Our secondary needs a major overhaul...

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 02:50 PM

Gamble is our best talent in the secondary. By major overhaul do you mean replacing every single player for someone better? Because that's not really realistic, you know.

Neither Gamble nor Davidson deserve such criticism.

#5 Delhommey

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 02:51 PM

Venting's for chicks. The Huddle's for football, fart jokes and bewbies.

Please take note.

#6 walt227

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 03:01 PM

Venting's for chicks. The Huddle's for football, fart jokes and bewbies.

Please take note.


Dicks are for chicks there too, Delhommey---no need to be one.

:D

#7 CLTPanther

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 03:19 PM

Yes, let's fire the entire secondary, start new next year, and see how far that gets us. Gamble isn't going anywhere, he just signed a new contract. Lucas needs to be released though. Connor was showing promise early on, him going on IR didn't help any.

#8 SorthNarolina

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 03:22 PM

In the last eight games our defense allowed over 28ppg. Yes, I would get rid of Gamble. Our secondary needs a major overhaul...


Gamble is the best corner we have, and he just signed a new contract

that doesn't make any bit sense

#9 StepandFetch

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 03:23 PM

I want to apologize in advance for the long post. I need to vent...

A couple weeks ago I called in to Panther talk and posed this question to Eugene Robinson:

Why does everyone who gets paid to talk about football have so much faith in Delhomme while the rest of us nearly have a heart attack every time he rolls out of the pocket?


maybe because some of the "experts" know a little bit more about this than you?

Eugene has a point.

I don't mean to come across as having a negative tone.

Edited by StepandFetch, 12 January 2009 - 03:38 PM.


#10 dksmith17

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 03:27 PM

Sometimes I forget how dillusional most fans are.

thank you

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 03:35 PM

Hey--look the new guy has an opinion--let's pick one blurb out of a rediculously long post and trash him for it.

I'm not a fan of what Gamble has or hasn't accomplished over the years, so sue me. I don't think he's the primary catalyst of our issues either. Yes, we're a 12 win team, and in order to have another winning season we need to look at what went wrong and make the necessary changes. Look, we're all on the same side here---have an open mind...


To be fair, everyone's jumped on that one blurb because it's easily the most ridiculous part of your post.

Don't let 'em get to you. I think all we're saying is that Lucas is by the weakest link in our secondary, not Gamble. We can't overhaul the entire secondary.

#12 Brooklyn Bully

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 03:41 PM

In the last eight games our defense allowed over 28ppg. Yes, I would get rid of Gamble. Our secondary needs a major overhaul...


You do know there's a reason why teams pass toward Lucas, Marshall, and where Godfrey is in covereage right? Gamble is like our Nmandi.

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 03:43 PM

Good corners are hard to come by. Gamble is not bad. The soft defensive schemes and lame predictable defense we run doesn't help. Lucas can go away. He did alot for this team after the whole fight thing but lost his confidence and could not perform the whole season. I am not a Gamble fan by no means but considering how hard it is to find competent corners I will take him. This was by far one of his better seasons but he hasn't been consistent the whole time he has been here. Fire trgocrap and get some aggresive minded coordinator here that will use the talent we do have. Fire trgocrap. Please!


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