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Posted 13 August 2010 - 11:45 PM

Problem is we don't play a WCO pass first offense like Philly and McNabb. We play a run first vertical passing game. The same skills don't apply. With what I saw last night Clausen would be better off in a WCO than ours right now. Hopefully his experience in college in our type of offense will translate eventually into the NFL. But lets see what happens when he gets to look at film and practice a little longer. Rookie QBs make their biggest gains between the first and second preseason games.

True, WCO is not our style and thank God! I was trying to say that he has positive skills to build on and I see him as a very smart player who will only get better. Same as McNabb starting out. Same sideways throw with velocity that McNabb had. What they developed to eventually play doesn't matter in the comparison. We'll get to see, too, how McNabb changes at Washington but that doesn't matter to this discussion either.

I'm excited about Clausen, yes. I'm also glad he doesn't have to start. It will be an interesting journey to watch.

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 08:05 AM

Clausen has never played in a West Coast Offense and he produced in college so I don't know how we can say he is better suited for that than a pro-style.

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 08:17 AM

Clausen has never played in a West Coast Offense and he produced in college so I don't know how we can say he is better suited for that than a pro-style.


There is a huge difference between the windows you have in college and the ones in the pros. So a guy chucking the ball 20 or 30 yards down the field in college may not have the arm strength to do the same in the pros. Where any of the guys can throw the 5 or 10 yard passes in the WCO. At this point I need to see if he can make the transition from one to the other. Defensive secondaries are so much faster in the NFL that you have to zip it in there. At this point the zip some people see, eludes me. And again it is probably me but the way he threw in the preseason game doesn't look like the film I saw from college. If I didn't know it was him I would swear it wasn't the same guy. What was once touted as a perfect throw now looks pretty unorthodox. I question whether that injury to his tow is still an issue. But again I didn't see him that much in college so it might be me.

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 08:29 AM

He threw the same way in college that he did in high school, even after the toe injury so I think it might be because of the ball being slippery, he was rushing, or it might be something the Panthers want him to do. I noticed a different delivery as well but I am hoping it goes back to the old motion at the next game.

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 08:52 AM

The shovel pass may have been the first one thrown in team history. I liked it.

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 09:13 AM

Put it into perspective--when was the last time you saw a second-round drafted QB play as well in his first preseason game? On the other hand, Moore had as moving (insert Jordan Gross comment here--although, a vet LT knows to protect the QB at all costs in the preseason, so I was not upset about that--besides the second penalty was not holding).

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 10:12 AM

Clausen has never played in a West Coast Offense and he produced in college so I don't know how we can say he is better suited for that than a pro-style.


His accuracy..

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 10:50 AM

There is a huge difference between the windows you have in college and the ones in the pros. So a guy chucking the ball 20 or 30 yards down the field in college may not have the arm strength to do the same in the pros. Where any of the guys can throw the 5 or 10 yard passes in the WCO. At this point I need to see if he can make the transition from one to the other. Defensive secondaries are so much faster in the NFL that you have to zip it in there. At this point the zip some people see, eludes me. And again it is probably me but the way he threw in the preseason game doesn't look like the film I saw from college. If I didn't know it was him I would swear it wasn't the same guy. What was once touted as a perfect throw now looks pretty unorthodox. I question whether that injury to his tow is still an issue. But again I didn't see him that much in college so it might be me.


It's not just you. He didn't throw like that in college. I'm convinced he was overthinking the speed of his release. I think it will go away, but it's an issue if it didn't.

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 12:21 PM

The shovel pass may have been the first one thrown in team history. I liked it.


It was awsome.

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 12:31 PM

deserves his own thread after last nights performance. Nothing against Matt Moore and I know its early but so far this kid looked very impressive with his pocket presence and decision making. I know I am probably in the minority and its highly unlikely Fox would do it but if clausen continues to show improvement I'd like to see him starting sooner than later.


I'm sure I'm not the first person to say this but the Ravens 2nd string defense =/= their first string D, Ed Reed or not....