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Yahoo!: Who's that guy? Youthful Panthers hard to predict


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#106 GRWatcher

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 02:42 PM

exactly. lol

and i'd also like to add, unless someone else has already stated this... but that article is wrong in one sense. it clearly states that Steve Smith is the oldest player on the team, when John Kasay surpasses him by like 10 years. and i really don't see how they could have missed that since Kasay, Gross and Smith are the only three players remaining from our miraculous 2003 super bowl run.


The article states that Smith is the oldest POSITION player. And that is true. Kickers are not considered position players. They didn't miss anything.

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 05:23 PM

when does it ever work when you lose game?


My point is they are going to get pissed off and throw a fit and one will leave.


On a normal team (without two #1's with egos) this would not happen.

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 06:12 PM

I am, for one, very excited about this team. More excited than I have been in a long time. I don't think that we should have got another #1 caliber WR, we don't need Smitty breaking Boldin's face for the second time, or hitting anyone else. This team shows a lot of things, experience may not be one of them, but I believe we will surprise A LOT of people this year. One of our WR will step up and become a viable option. Moore will come into his own and run this team with a lot of the fire that Jake did in my opinion. I do know however that if we are kicking ass and going to make the playoffs, someone will still find something to bitch about. We could go 13-3 and people would complain because we didn't go 14-2... ridiculous.

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 07:22 AM

I think they did an awsome job thus far with the defense. The cuts and fixes they made there were damn good and that is where most the money was saved. Of course on offense they finally got a QB for real competition which was awesome and got rid of the problem. Really, the only thing I'm irritated with is the WR. I wish they would have got one. There were several that were good this year that became available. That's only ONE contract, ONE player, I just don't see how that was too complicated to do. I understand the philosophy they are headed into the season with but another stud WR opposite of smith and this whole team would easily headed to the playoffs. More importantly I won't have to poo my pants every time smitty takes a hit and might get injured.

Edited by FortySixand2, 27 August 2010 - 07:26 AM.


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Posted 27 August 2010 - 09:16 AM

I prefer experienced proven veterans to unproven inexperienced rookies or guys who have never been-guys like Edwards or Jarrett.

We don't prefer the old tag.:D


In all seriousnous though, if you're going to go young and still want to be good, the defensive side of the ball is the place to do it because there is not as big of a learning curve at most defensive positions. This team still has plenty of experience almost across the board on offense. Even Matt Moore is entering his 4th season as a pro.

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 09:22 AM

In all seriousnous though, if you're going to go young and still want to be good, the defensive side of the ball is the place to do it because there is not as big of a learning curve at most defensive positions. This team still has plenty of experience almost across the board on offense. Even Matt Moore is entering his 4th season as a pro.


I would agree that youth is better served on the defensive side of the ball. At this point we are actually inexpereinced at several positions on the Offense. Fullback. receiver not named Steve Smith, right guard and quarterback. I have high hopes for Moore this year but honestly our team has the least experience at quarterback than any in the league.
It could be worse for sure but we are one or two injuries away from being hurting. The problem this year won't be just the starters but lack of expereinced backups as well. If we stay healthy we could be fine. But when was the last time that realy happened outside of 2008 when we went 12-4.

just sayin...............

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 09:29 AM

I would agree that youth is better served on the defensive side of the ball. At this point we are actually inexpereinced at several positions on the Offense. Fullback. receiver not named Steve Smith, right guard and quarterback. I have high hopes for Moore this year but honestly our team has the least experience at quarterback than any in the league.
It could be worse for sure but we are one or two injuries away from being hurting. The problem this year won't be just the starters but lack of expereinced backups as well. If we stay healthy we could be fine. But when was the last time that realy happened outside of 2008 when we went 12-4.

just sayin...............


Moore has just as much experience as Kolb, and he has more than Romo did when he was named the starter. Fiammatta has had a year to learn with a little bit of game experience thrown in, so he should be fine. Bernadeau will probably win the starting RG spot, and he has started games before, so he should be fine too. That leaves the #2WR, and we don't even know who that is yet. Jarrett and Moore have both played in regular season games though, so LaFell is the only option who has never played in the NFL, and he will have to beat out the experienced players to win it.

I think we're OK. They all just need to show something in this next game, and that includes all of the experienced vets on offense. They haven't looked any better than those youngsters yet.

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 09:55 AM

There is the other side of the coin however.

BY not extending Fox and all of his staff you might have made them angry enough to all walk on you and you are left with no coach, GM, and no assistant coaches.

By not signing your core players they are free to go elsewhere with absolutely no compensation at all.

If the CBA is signed by March or April you may have shucked all your coaches and talent and end being the St Louis of the league for the next 5 years as you try and rebuild all your talent.

Should be intersting to see which side the coin lands on.


Maybe is going with the youth movement at GM and coach.

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 10:04 AM

Moore has just as much experience as Kolb, and he has more than Romo did when he was named the starter. Fiammatta has had a year to learn with a little bit of game experience thrown in, so he should be fine. Bernadeau will probably win the starting RG spot, and he has started games before, so he should be fine too. That leaves the #2WR, and we don't even know who that is yet. Jarrett and Moore have both played in regular season games though, so LaFell is the only option who has never played in the NFL, and he will have to beat out the experienced players to win it.

I think we're OK. They all just need to show something in this next game, and that includes all of the experienced vets on offense. They haven't looked any better than those youngsters yet.


We will have to see about Kolb as well. It was a big risk for Philly to take. Not so much for us given how Jake played versus McNabb.

You can make cases for anybody on the offense to step up and do fine or not. At this point it is still very unproven. Given we have gone in that direction, the time to speculate on what they might do is gone. Now it is time for them to either deliver or not.
I want to go from shoulda, coulda, woulda to did. Won't be long until we see if the unbridled optimism is justified or wishful thinking.

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 10:07 AM

Maybe is going with the youth movement at GM and coach.


I think if Hurney leaves it will be by his decision not JRs. As for Fox, I doubt he is here next year no matter how they do. If he does poor he is gone by JRs decision. If the team does well with this group, every team with a bunch of young inexperienced guys will be knocking at the door.