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I guess we will find out tomorrow why it's crucial to have 2 rb's.

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So in a 16 game schedule starters wont get hurt but they will in a 18 game schedule?? Or are you saying that a retired NFL player at the age of 50 is having health issues is something we should try to prevent? They know what they are getting into just like rugby and NHL players which are probably worse sports on their health in the long run.

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that's possible, but I'm also curious if RBs broke down as quickly as they do now.. (as with other positions)

you see more hamstring, acl, etc injuries today than in the past.. perhaps players are getting bigger and faster.. but to say playing more games doesn't affect that isn't something I can buy into..

if it ain't broke, don't fix it...

the NFL is huge, there is no need to water down the competition by expanding more games and putting more stress on players.. (if you choose to believe that.. I do.)

Back in the days when they played 12 games, players often played both directions on offense and defense. And while it is true that athletes are bigger and stronger, they are better conditioned and looked after. MOst players in the good old dau\ys worked other jobs to make a living and played football on the weekends. When they got hurt there was little they could do. They needed the money so they worked and played hurt or not.

An 18 game season wouldn't be that bad in my opinion and could avoid a lockout.

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So in a 16 game schedule starters wont get hurt but they will in a 18 game schedule?? Or are you saying that a retired NFL player at the age of 50 is having health issues is something we should try to prevent? They know what they are getting into just like rugby and NHL players which are probably worse sports on their health in the long run.

not one person made the point you are saying they made.. (above in bolded) in 1 preseason game, on the very 1st play, you can get injured.. try 4 preseason and 16 games.. take 2 preseason out and add 2 regular season games, you add more stress to the body.. simple point really..

will we see a difference? aren't more people getting injured more frequently with injuries that didn't occur before? it's all really whatever you want to believe..

I guess if it helps.. think of it as there are players playing 2 full games more than 1 or 2 quarters in a preseason game.. Hines Ward thinks 2 a days are too much stress..

I guess it's whatever you want to believe.. I believe it's perfectly fine the way it is.. so why f**k with it...? unless the owner wants more money or the fans want more of what benefits them... sure the players know what they are getting into, but that doesn't mean it's a sound decision..

players want to play with broken ribs.. we know players don't know when to say no... throw in more money and they'll agree to anything..

all I'm saying is it's the best sport in the world.. quit f**king with it.. they've done enough...

Back in the days when they played 12 games, players often played both directions on offense and defense. And while it is true that athletes are bigger and stronger, they are better conditioned and looked after. MOst players in the good old dau\ys worked other jobs to make a living and played football on the weekends. When they got hurt there was little they could do. They needed the money so they worked and played hurt or not.

An 18 game season wouldn't be that bad in my opinion and could avoid a lockout.

yeah, but more players are getting hurt more frequently with injuries that weren't as common back in the day as they are now..

2 more games may not mean poo.. but I say the risk is bigger than the reward (in the form of dollars or the fan's guilty pleasure of 2 more regular season games)

throw in playoffs and I just think it's more stress than required...needed...there's no real need to fix what is already great...

yes, the off-season is long... some day we have to quit with the whole "me, me, me" mentality and let things be..

but that's just where I'm at with the whole thing.. maybe it's not going to be worse to add 2 more games.. I still don't see the need of 2 more games... then again, it doesn't really matter what the f**k I think.. that poo is most likely going to happen.. ;)

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I like Jeff Saturday's opinion of an 18-game season. He said that with only two preseason games, the starters will hog most of the playing time in preseason. In other words, he said if there was an 18-game season when he came out of college, he would have never made an NFL team.

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I like Jeff Saturday's opinion of an 18-game season. He said that with only two preseason games, the starters will hog most of the playing time in preseason. In other words, he said if there was 18-game season when he came out of college, he would have never made an NFL team.

I remember hearing/reading that somewhere.. I wish my mind was as good at recalling those things as some others around here...

anyhow, maybe the 18 season waters down how important each game is and rookies still get more playing time in the preseason, instead of starters getting to "mid-season form" asap...

I don't believe that to be the case.. just throwing it out there.. who knows.

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I like Jeff Saturday's opinion of an 18-game season. He said that with only two preseason games, the starters will hog most of the playing time in preseason. In other words, he said if there was an 18-game season when he came out of college, he would have never made an NFL team.

But if they extend the active roster size by 5 or 6 players, you wouldn't need the extra games to sort out final cuts. They would be included.

Would you rather have a 16 game season and have a lockout or play 18 and have a season. That is what is it is likely to come down to.

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But if they extend the active roster size by 5 or 6 players, you wouldn't need the extra games to sort out final cuts. They would be included.

Would you rather have a 16 game season and have a lockout or play 18 and have a season. That is what is it is likely to come down to.

I don't know man.. my concern of adding 2 more games outweighs my concern of a lockout..

I guess there is a downside to both.. I think I would rather miss half a season than see it go to 18 games.. as far as "NFL Fans" go, however, I would hate to see people turn on the NFL for a lockout..

as a Panthers fan, we know how injuries can plague a season though...

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Eh, the only half-reasonable complaint anyone has raised against the 18-game season is the stress it would put on players bodies. But really it's not a big difference, since the preseason will be reduced by two games. Yeah, the starters play less in the preseason but it's not a huge difference. Besides, this kind of thing is easily handled by better practice routines and increased roster size.

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Eh, the only half-reasonable complaint anyone has raised against the 18-game season is the stress it would put on players bodies. But really it's not a big difference, since the preseason will be reduced by two games. Yeah, the starters play less in the preseason but it's not a huge difference. Besides, this kind of thing is easily handled by better practice routines and increased roster size.

don't agree that it can be down played as you make it sound.. but that's just me..

stress on the bodies is a big deal.. and playing 2 full onslaught of games rather than 1 or 2 meaningless quarters in 2 preseason games are also a bigger deal than giving credit...

better practice routines.....not sure what that means, but feel free to help me understand what you mean.. why aren't better practice routines available now since injuries are a big concern throughout the 16 game season, 4 preseason games, OTAs, Training camp, and playoff games..

we aren't just talking expanding 2 games past 16.. we already have a shitload going on including the 16 games... down playing any of that is short sighted...

increased roster size isn't going to help the stars in any way, shape, or form.. and if it's only to supplant a current starter when they get injured (as someone pointed out), well- how about we not play 2 more games on top of all thats going on now?

people point out there aren't any "reasonable complaints" against an 18 game season.. well, these excuses surely aren't reasonable to expand the season...

and people aren't even thinking of the total amount of football being played...

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Keep the 16 game schedule, cut it down to 3 preseason games.

That will never happen. They'd just be cutting revenue for the sake of it.

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Why move it to 18 games? Would they keep the 4 preseason games? I'm not a season ticket holder but is there a price break for preseason tickets? If not what kind of increased revenue are they looking at?

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Why move it to 18 games? Would they keep the 4 preseason games? I'm not a season ticket holder but is there a price break for preseason tickets? If not what kind of increased revenue are they looking at?

almost 45 million.

The average ticket price is about $150 (may be a bit high). For 16 games and 4 preseason that is an even $3000.

Adding two more games would add another $300 on top of that.

The BOA stadium has a capacity of 73,778. (x$300)

22 million doesn't even talk into account stadium food and beers etc which could easily double it.

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